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> How will this change events like G20, Copenhagen, or Davos? Nothing will change, have you seen the security apparatus of G20? They literally turn any place i

> How will this change events like G20, Copenhagen, or Davos? Nothing will change, have you seen the security apparatus of G20? They literally turn any place into a fortress. Visit Canary Wharf or City of London and most of the infrastructure for barricading or lock down is already there. What is unexpected to me is that this starts with Healthcare when my expectation would have been Oil and Gas first. > What comes next? A. They find him and he gets accidentally murdered during arrest so that he never sits in front of a jury. B. They never find him and a copycat trend begins.

Teever 2y ago
If Russian tanks are vulnerable to drones how can the same be said of any of the places you describe?
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  Drones are pretty loud, just not tank loud.
- DoingIsLearning 2y ago
  No fly zones, RF jammers, Police forces themselves are equipped with counter offense drones. I am sure there are even more counter measures not known to the public or disclosed. After 9/11 all major wealth epicentres really started taking security a lot more seriously beyond just plain robbery. Comparing them to out dated and corrupt armed force is selling them short.
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    There's a lot of security theater.
  - Teever 2y ago
    I think everything that you said is false. But let's say that it isn't. Just for the sake of argument. Will it still hold against $100 drones? $50 drones? $10 drones? History is replete with examples of lessons of the eternal struggle between offense and defense. While we have come of age in a time where defense has conquered offense there is no guarantee that this will remain the status quo. If we are entering a period where offense exceeds the capabilities of defense how will the wealthy respond? In the age of technology destroying the status quo is there any reason to believe that this will extend to the status quo of the wealthy having an advantagous defensive posture? What does the future where anyone can fuck someone elses shit up without regard to their social status look like?
- DecoySalamander 2y ago
  Taking out a tank requires a team of trained operators with multiple attack drones, reconnaissance drones (possibly deployed by a separate team), usually a minefield, and constant innovation to overcome electronic warfare and new types of improvised armor. All of this would be difficult to accomplish in a civilian context, especially under adversarial conditions. Even if you think that this can somehow be circumvented with improvements in drone technology, think about who has an easier time using it - the state or would-be assassins.

Teever 2y ago

If Russian tanks are vulnerable to drones how can the same be said of any of the places you describe?

throwaway48476 2y ago
Drones are pretty loud, just not tank loud.
DoingIsLearning 2y ago
No fly zones, RF jammers, Police forces themselves are equipped with counter offense drones. I am sure there are even more counter measures not known to the public or disclosed. After 9/11 all major wealth epicentres really started taking security a lot more seriously beyond just plain robbery. Comparing them to out dated and corrupt armed force is selling them short.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  There's a lot of security theater.
- Teever 2y ago
  I think everything that you said is false. But let's say that it isn't. Just for the sake of argument. Will it still hold against $100 drones? $50 drones? $10 drones? History is replete with examples of lessons of the eternal struggle between offense and defense. While we have come of age in a time where defense has conquered offense there is no guarantee that this will remain the status quo. If we are entering a period where offense exceeds the capabilities of defense how will the wealthy respond? In the age of technology destroying the status quo is there any reason to believe that this will extend to the status quo of the wealthy having an advantagous defensive posture? What does the future where anyone can fuck someone elses shit up without regard to their social status look like?
DecoySalamander 2y ago
Taking out a tank requires a team of trained operators with multiple attack drones, reconnaissance drones (possibly deployed by a separate team), usually a minefield, and constant innovation to overcome electronic warfare and new types of improvised armor. All of this would be difficult to accomplish in a civilian context, especially under adversarial conditions. Even if you think that this can somehow be circumvented with improvements in drone technology, think about who has an easier time using it - the state or would-be assassins.