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Why did he reload every shot? Is it self made pistol? My best guess that insurance haven't paid his enough to buy glock17

sergiotapia 2y ago
not a gun dude, but I read that it is common when using "subsonic rounds" for quieter shots.
- jerlam 2y ago
  All of this seems to indicate this was a hired professional and not someone merely angry at their health insurance benefits.
  - Zigurd 2y ago
    Or someone highly motivated to make the hit a work of art. Killers are usually not very smart, or they are blinded by rage, and they make mistakes and are sloppy and incomplete about planning.
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    'hired professionals' are always FBI agents. This guy didn't even do a test firing.
    - brokenmachine 2y ago
      What does this mean? How do you know he didn't test before?
      - throwaway48476 2y ago
        If he knew what he was doing he'd use a lighter spring.
        brokenmachine 2y ago
        Sometimes you need to use what you have on hand. He seemed quite prepared to manually cycle the pistol. You may question his methods, but you can't question his effectiveness.
Molitor5901 2y ago
Perhaps subsonic rounds that did not have enough charge to drive the slide. It looks like there may be a suppression device on the end. My first thought was home made.
- Molitor5901 2y ago
  Just an interesting note. Some in the media have suggested the weapon used is a B&T Station Six, a bolt action pistol. I had no idea such a thing existed. Reviewing the footage again I don't know if it is that model. The hand movement appears more chambering that cycling a bolt. https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-piece-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-suspects-escape-route/story?id=116475329 https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-piece-unitedhealthcare-ceo-...
TrackerFF 2y ago
A bit technical: Automatic and semi-automatic weapons work the way the do because force of the round (recoil) pushes back the bolt carrier, which a spring will then push forward again. Shot is fired, bolt carrier goes back, spring pushes it forward. Subsonic ammunition have less charge than regular ammunition, to reduce the velocity. This also means less recoil. Combined with the spring now being too stiff, the bolt carrier will simply not move back far enough to successfully chamber a new round. So you have to manually chamber a new round between each shot. One solution is to use a light / less stiff spring that is adjusted to the force of the subsonic ammo. Same principle for when shooting blanks.
- Clubber 2y ago
  He also could have not been using a Nielsen device. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_booster#Modern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_booster#Modern
igetspam 2y ago
Or it could just be a single action pistol, as noted in the article. They’re not common but there are a handful of them that are relatively easy to obtain. Competitive shooters use them and it seems that Seals are sometimes issued single action pistols too.

sergiotapia 2y ago

not a gun dude, but I read that it is common when using "subsonic rounds" for quieter shots.

jerlam 2y ago
All of this seems to indicate this was a hired professional and not someone merely angry at their health insurance benefits.
- Zigurd 2y ago
  Or someone highly motivated to make the hit a work of art. Killers are usually not very smart, or they are blinded by rage, and they make mistakes and are sloppy and incomplete about planning.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  'hired professionals' are always FBI agents. This guy didn't even do a test firing.
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    What does this mean? How do you know he didn't test before?
    - throwaway48476 2y ago
      If he knew what he was doing he'd use a lighter spring.
      - brokenmachine 2y ago
        Sometimes you need to use what you have on hand. He seemed quite prepared to manually cycle the pistol. You may question his methods, but you can't question his effectiveness.

Molitor5901 2y ago

Perhaps subsonic rounds that did not have enough charge to drive the slide. It looks like there may be a suppression device on the end. My first thought was home made.

Molitor5901 2y ago
Just an interesting note. Some in the media have suggested the weapon used is a B&T Station Six, a bolt action pistol. I had no idea such a thing existed. Reviewing the footage again I don't know if it is that model. The hand movement appears more chambering that cycling a bolt. https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-piece-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-suspects-escape-route/story?id=116475329 https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-piece-unitedhealthcare-ceo-...

TrackerFF 2y ago

A bit technical: Automatic and semi-automatic weapons work the way the do because force of the round (recoil) pushes back the bolt carrier, which a spring will then push forward again. Shot is fired, bolt carrier goes back, spring pushes it forward. Subsonic ammunition have less charge than regular ammunition, to reduce the velocity. This also means less recoil. Combined with the spring now being too stiff, the bolt carrier will simply not move back far enough to successfully chamber a new round. So you have to manually chamber a new round between each shot. One solution is to use a light / less stiff spring that is adjusted to the force of the subsonic ammo. Same principle for when shooting blanks.

Clubber 2y ago
He also could have not been using a Nielsen device. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_booster#Modern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_booster#Modern

igetspam 2y ago

Or it could just be a single action pistol, as noted in the article. They’re not common but there are a handful of them that are relatively easy to obtain. Competitive shooters use them and it seems that Seals are sometimes issued single action pistols too.