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Jaguar Introduces Type 00

15 points by jiwidi 2y ago

linsomniac 2y ago
What is with the new "JaGUar" logo?!? Leaning into Jeremy Clarkson's pronunciation "ja-goo-are"?
miav 2y ago
That's.. actually not a bad looking car. I mean if I had infinite money to spend on a supercar I can certainly think of a dozen others I'd rather go for, but given that most people were expecting an eyesore, I think the new Jaguar looks pretty good while also admittedly being very unique. Looking forward to seeing it on the streets.
- dave333 2y ago
  I agree - looks sleek, powerful, muscular, elegant, refined and I like the slight boxiness rather than everything rounded like an E Type. But then I like the Cybertruck too.
000ooo000 2y ago
>*Jaguar Type 00 is a non-production vehicle
tailsdog 2y ago
They are blatantly trying to shock people and go against the brand heritage to get publicity, looks like something from the Cybertruck playbook. Sales and reputation have been declining for a while, maybe this is a last chance gamble. It could work out for them.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 2y ago
  With such a shitty product? I doubt it. This car is dead on arrival (just the shape makes zero sense and goes against everything EV need and against all their benefits).
  - tim333 2y ago
    Well, we've yet to see the actual product.
- tim333 2y ago
  They've certainly got a lot of publicity.
rcMgD2BwE72F 2y ago
Said to be an EV. Has a hood longer than a Mustang. And a front shaped like a school bus to make the drag coefficient explode and kill its range. Must be a fake product and a marketing ploy.
- _yb2s 2y ago
  The long hood is a classic Jaguar style element from back when they had incredily long V12 and inline 6 engines. The bare engine blocks alone were about 4 feet long, not counting all of the accessories, fan, radiator, etc. I agree it makes no sense in an EV.
- tim333 2y ago
  Quite similar to the Rolls Specter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gd4AaWqWYAA7P_l?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gd4AaWqWYAA7P_l?format=jpg&name=... youtube carwow on that. Also pinkish looking expensive electric https://youtu.be/ANPKMbm_cvQ?t=26 https://youtu.be/ANPKMbm_cvQ?t=26
mtmail 2y ago
They should price it 2-5 million. It's a statement of "Look I can afford the most expensive car".
- A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
  They can't do that. Luxury products are largely defined by: 1. How "exclusive" they are. 2. The age and heritage of the brand 3. How difficult they are to manufacture. (The difficulty could be artificial.) Jaguar fails on basically all counts. (1) Price isn't necessarily a stand-in for #1 -- on the very high-end, you have to make it actually difficult to acquire the product in question, and they're not going to do that. (2) Jaguar has a reputation that's somewhere from "weird" to "terrible," not the storied reputation of an old French brand like Bugatti. (3) The Chinese can manufacture that car in a heartbeat. Give CATL and BYD free reign, and they'll probably do a much better job of it.
  - _yb2s 2y ago
    Jaguar absolutely has a very long history of making exclusive low production volume sports cars and supercars that fit all 3 of those criteria. In the 90s they were selling the XJ220 for what would nowadays be about 1.3 million- it was both one of the fastest, and one of the most expensive cars in the world at the time. In general, they also have a long - "storied" racing history, and have consistently moved that racing technology into production high performance automobiles. At many points in history, starting with the XK120 in the 1940s they were selling the fastest supercars in the world. Jaguar's reputation for reliability is no worse than the French and Italian exotic cars... you didn't buy a European car with a V12 in the 1970s if you couldn't afford a lot to keep it up.
    - A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
      The 1940s were long ago, and recent times have been terrible for Jaguar. First sold to Ford and mismanaged, then hastily offloaded at a loss to Tata in 2008, and floundering even worse ever since. Seems to me that they're now considered a mid-tier brand, probably somewhere below BMW.
dimatter 2y ago
*Jaguar Type 00 is a non-production vehicle
djaouen 2y ago
I prefer my raggedy Buick[1] tbh [1] https://schizophrenic.io/blog/driving-a-run-down-buick https://schizophrenic.io/blog/driving-a-run-down-buick
drbig 2y ago
So, is Jaguar now a purely marketing/visual arts company? Context: > Launch dates, events, and creative collaborations > *Jaguar Type 00 is a non-production vehicle

15 points by jiwidi 2y ago

What is with the new "JaGUar" logo?!? Leaning into Jeremy Clarkson's pronunciation "ja-goo-are"?

miav 2y ago

That's.. actually not a bad looking car. I mean if I had infinite money to spend on a supercar I can certainly think of a dozen others I'd rather go for, but given that most people were expecting an eyesore, I think the new Jaguar looks pretty good while also admittedly being very unique. Looking forward to seeing it on the streets.

dave333 2y ago
I agree - looks sleek, powerful, muscular, elegant, refined and I like the slight boxiness rather than everything rounded like an E Type. But then I like the Cybertruck too.

000ooo000 2y ago

>*Jaguar Type 00 is a non-production vehicle

tailsdog 2y ago

They are blatantly trying to shock people and go against the brand heritage to get publicity, looks like something from the Cybertruck playbook. Sales and reputation have been declining for a while, maybe this is a last chance gamble. It could work out for them.

rcMgD2BwE72F 2y ago
With such a shitty product? I doubt it. This car is dead on arrival (just the shape makes zero sense and goes against everything EV need and against all their benefits).
- tim333 2y ago
  Well, we've yet to see the actual product.
tim333 2y ago
They've certainly got a lot of publicity.

rcMgD2BwE72F 2y ago

Said to be an EV. Has a hood longer than a Mustang. And a front shaped like a school bus to make the drag coefficient explode and kill its range. Must be a fake product and a marketing ploy.

_yb2s 2y ago
The long hood is a classic Jaguar style element from back when they had incredily long V12 and inline 6 engines. The bare engine blocks alone were about 4 feet long, not counting all of the accessories, fan, radiator, etc. I agree it makes no sense in an EV.
tim333 2y ago
Quite similar to the Rolls Specter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gd4AaWqWYAA7P_l?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gd4AaWqWYAA7P_l?format=jpg&name=... youtube carwow on that. Also pinkish looking expensive electric https://youtu.be/ANPKMbm_cvQ?t=26 https://youtu.be/ANPKMbm_cvQ?t=26

mtmail 2y ago

They should price it 2-5 million. It's a statement of "Look I can afford the most expensive car".

A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
They can't do that. Luxury products are largely defined by: 1. How "exclusive" they are. 2. The age and heritage of the brand 3. How difficult they are to manufacture. (The difficulty could be artificial.) Jaguar fails on basically all counts. (1) Price isn't necessarily a stand-in for #1 -- on the very high-end, you have to make it actually difficult to acquire the product in question, and they're not going to do that. (2) Jaguar has a reputation that's somewhere from "weird" to "terrible," not the storied reputation of an old French brand like Bugatti. (3) The Chinese can manufacture that car in a heartbeat. Give CATL and BYD free reign, and they'll probably do a much better job of it.
- _yb2s 2y ago
  Jaguar absolutely has a very long history of making exclusive low production volume sports cars and supercars that fit all 3 of those criteria. In the 90s they were selling the XJ220 for what would nowadays be about 1.3 million- it was both one of the fastest, and one of the most expensive cars in the world at the time. In general, they also have a long - "storied" racing history, and have consistently moved that racing technology into production high performance automobiles. At many points in history, starting with the XK120 in the 1940s they were selling the fastest supercars in the world. Jaguar's reputation for reliability is no worse than the French and Italian exotic cars... you didn't buy a European car with a V12 in the 1970s if you couldn't afford a lot to keep it up.
  - A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
    The 1940s were long ago, and recent times have been terrible for Jaguar. First sold to Ford and mismanaged, then hastily offloaded at a loss to Tata in 2008, and floundering even worse ever since. Seems to me that they're now considered a mid-tier brand, probably somewhere below BMW.

dimatter 2y ago

*Jaguar Type 00 is a non-production vehicle

djaouen 2y ago

I prefer my raggedy Buick[1] tbh [1] https://schizophrenic.io/blog/driving-a-run-down-buick https://schizophrenic.io/blog/driving-a-run-down-buick

drbig 2y ago

So, is Jaguar now a purely marketing/visual arts company? Context: > Launch dates, events, and creative collaborations > *Jaguar Type 00 is a non-production vehicle