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Why don’t we have reliable sources?

by cr__ 2y ago

azinman2 2y ago
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- pphysch 2y ago
  To be clear, which side are you referring to?
  - azinman2 2y ago
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    - pphysch 2y ago
      Yeah, I've heard all those official talking points a thousand times. I've also seen Israeli officials openly dehumanizing and calling for the mass murder of Palestinians, and theft of their land. And I've seen the graphic results. There's an undeniable reality here and sadly it doesn't align with your official government talking points.
      - azinman2 2y ago
        I’m not going to engage in this highly controversial topic, there’s nothing new going on here. But to call these government talking points is wild. Go read hamas’s charter yourself: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
        ceejayoz 2y ago
        It's probably best to read the current version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter Otherwise, one has to reckon with the fact that Netanyahu's party's founding document doesn't look great, either, as it uses "from the river to the sea", which we're now told is a genocidal saying. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform... "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty"
        jazzyjackson 2y ago
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        ceejayoz 2y ago
        > Guess what, Israel sovereignty allows for Arab and Muslim citizenship. Sure, as did the American South during segregation. Half of Israeli Jews support removal of the Arab population. https://forward.com/israel/335292/48-of-israeli-jews-back-expulsion-or-transfer-of-arabs-new-pew-survey-says/ https://forward.com/israel/335292/48-of-israeli-jews-back-ex... > The converse can not be said for Jews in a Palestinian state. Certainly. In "Hitler, Mao, or Stalin", the only winning move is not to play.

Why don’t we have reliable sources?

by cr__ 2y ago

Why don’t we have reliable sources?

azinman2 2y ago

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pphysch 2y ago
To be clear, which side are you referring to?
- azinman2 2y ago
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  - pphysch 2y ago
    Yeah, I've heard all those official talking points a thousand times. I've also seen Israeli officials openly dehumanizing and calling for the mass murder of Palestinians, and theft of their land. And I've seen the graphic results. There's an undeniable reality here and sadly it doesn't align with your official government talking points.
    - azinman2 2y ago
      I’m not going to engage in this highly controversial topic, there’s nothing new going on here. But to call these government talking points is wild. Go read hamas’s charter yourself: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
      - ceejayoz 2y ago
        It's probably best to read the current version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter Otherwise, one has to reckon with the fact that Netanyahu's party's founding document doesn't look great, either, as it uses "from the river to the sea", which we're now told is a genocidal saying. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform... "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty"
        jazzyjackson 2y ago
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        ceejayoz 2y ago
        > Guess what, Israel sovereignty allows for Arab and Muslim citizenship. Sure, as did the American South during segregation. Half of Israeli Jews support removal of the Arab population. https://forward.com/israel/335292/48-of-israeli-jews-back-expulsion-or-transfer-of-arabs-new-pew-survey-says/ https://forward.com/israel/335292/48-of-israeli-jews-back-ex... > The converse can not be said for Jews in a Palestinian state. Certainly. In "Hitler, Mao, or Stalin", the only winning move is not to play.