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The Venn diagram of people who think it's ok to treat parents like this and people who vote "for liberty" is a circle.

nickff 2y ago
Could you please explain why you believe this to be the case? One of the major advocates of 'free-range parenting' (and who allowed her child to ride the New York Subway unaccompanied) is a frequent contributor to a leading libertarian magazine (Reason). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenore_Skenazy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenore_Skenazy
- freehorse 2y ago
  Who is actually the author of the present article in that exact magazine's website.
krunck 2y ago
As drawn by you? Or are you saying that people who value freedom are the ones supporting nanny state policies?
- heisenbit 2y ago
  There is a wide gap between the people who understand what freedom means and value it and the ones loudly proclaiming freedom. "Reason" may actually fall into the secondary category. The way this works is by undermining the rule of regulations by finding the most ridiculous example of excess (note how the author of the article wastes no effort on finding examples where sanity prevailed stoking emotions of the reader against this extreme but rare overreach). It is important to realize the total absence of regulation promoted implicitly often leads to rule setting by the strongest and most ruthless. Edit: The author is truly specialized on such stories as can be seen here: https://reason.com/people/lenore-skenazy/ https://reason.com/people/lenore-skenazy/
epcoa 2y ago
While I agree there’s some ironic amount of overlap, you ruined your point going full circle.
gosub100 2y ago
I was thinking it's the generation of people who have been normalized to "lockdowns" in school, who think the solution to everything is to make a new law, and expect the government to feed, teach, and care for their children. How can a stray child find its way alone, without a government chaperone?
black6 2y ago
You mean two, disconnected circles.

Could you please explain why you believe this to be the case? One of the major advocates of 'free-range parenting' (and who allowed her child to ride the New York Subway unaccompanied) is a frequent contributor to a leading libertarian magazine (Reason). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenore_Skenazy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenore_Skenazy

freehorse 2y ago
Who is actually the author of the present article in that exact magazine's website.

krunck 2y ago

As drawn by you? Or are you saying that people who value freedom are the ones supporting nanny state policies?

heisenbit 2y ago
There is a wide gap between the people who understand what freedom means and value it and the ones loudly proclaiming freedom. "Reason" may actually fall into the secondary category. The way this works is by undermining the rule of regulations by finding the most ridiculous example of excess (note how the author of the article wastes no effort on finding examples where sanity prevailed stoking emotions of the reader against this extreme but rare overreach). It is important to realize the total absence of regulation promoted implicitly often leads to rule setting by the strongest and most ruthless. Edit: The author is truly specialized on such stories as can be seen here: https://reason.com/people/lenore-skenazy/ https://reason.com/people/lenore-skenazy/

epcoa 2y ago

While I agree there’s some ironic amount of overlap, you ruined your point going full circle.

gosub100 2y ago

I was thinking it's the generation of people who have been normalized to "lockdowns" in school, who think the solution to everything is to make a new law, and expect the government to feed, teach, and care for their children. How can a stray child find its way alone, without a government chaperone?

black6 2y ago

You mean two, disconnected circles.