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Why?

by 6E696365 2y ago

Why?

sbdhzjd 2y ago
I'm against the war in Gaza and I believe the world is too globalized driving a lot of our modern ills.
- 6E696365 2y ago
  I already responded about Gaza in the other comment, but can you explain more about the globalization point? I'm assuming you think Trump will improve the situation, can you explain your reasoning there? I do think the CHIPs act was a step in the right direction to reduce US dependence on foreign nations.
- rozap 2y ago
  Me too. It was very hard to give someone (Harris) my vote when she was at best complicit in, and at worst aiding a genocide. But Trump said Netanyahu was doing a very good job and he has serious support from the most batshit insane people in AIPAC. Trump actually said they need to finish the job. Trump is not anti-intervention abroad as matter of policy, which I could support. Trump is anti-intervention (pull funding for Ukraine) when it helps his team (Russia) and pro-intervention when it helps his buddies (Miriam Adelson and her zionist ilk). I do think Trump will end the war in gaza, but it will be because Israel exterminates the remaining inhabitants and annexes it and the west bank. Mark my words. There will be no consequences for them doing so, because they have Trump and the US by the balls. And, I agree with you on the second point, that the US would be better off with stronger manufacturing. There was a lot of good stuff in the inflation reduction act and the CHIPS act. At least domestically, Biden wasn't the disaster that he was wrt foreign policy. But again, it seems like Trump's inability to stand for anything is going to cause issues. We'll get tariffs but those are a pretty blunt instrument that is going to decimate American manufacturing while it gets up to speed. It's wild that we agree on the direction of the country yet come to such different conclusions. How does this happen?
- scruple 2y ago
  > I'm against the war in Gaza Do the words Abraham Accords mean anything to you?
  - Gibbon1 2y ago
    I feel people don't consider enough 'not my monkeys not my circus' when it comes to the Palestinians.
sbdhzjd 2y ago
Why do I loath Biden? I blame him for the war in Ukraine from back when he was made vicar in 2014. Similarly, I'm aghast with the war in Gaza, so I was on the fence on Trump.
- 6E696365 2y ago
  Can you explain more about Biden's involvement in Ukraine or link to something I can read more about that? Why do you think Trump will be better for the war in Gaza? Genuinely asking.
  - sbdhzjd 2y ago
    Biden has been meddling in Ukraine since the Maidan back in '14. He was basically in charge of the country after Maidan under Obama. Not enough has been written about this, but there's enough including a French documentary released back in 2018 or 2019. I have friends from the "wrong side" of Ukraine and their family has been shelled by Kiev since Maidan. As to Gaza, I see Trump and Kamala tied. I have to project Biden's admin onto her because otherwise she is completely devoid of content to judge her with. And this admin's record is that of Bibi bandolier. So on the bloodshed in Gaza they're tied. On the blood spilt in Ukraine Trump's ahead. Advantage Trump. Which leads me to Dr. Stein. A courageous Jewish woman who has the backbone to stand up to Bibi. EDIT: if you want to know more about it Stephen F Cohen, a lifelong liberal married to the editor of "The Nation" wrote a book about it "War with Russia?". It came out in '19 based on his weekly interviews by John Batchelor. Prof. Cohen died in '20 ('21?)
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      The same guy, in March 2014, claimed that he didn't know whether Russia had invaded Crimea.
    - sirbutters 2y ago
      It's not a tie for Gaza. Trump is the one who provoked and moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. With his SIL being jewish, and his love for authoritarian regime like Bibi's - in what world do you think he gives a flying F about Palestinians? The left disappointed us for Gaza, but Trump will be much worse. With regards to Ukraine - how do you judge the accuracy of the French documentary you watched? Who financed it? Even in a far fetched scenario where you believe Putin felt threaten with NATO closer to his borders - does that suddenly make it ok for him to invade a sovereign state? Especially given they made an agreement to respect their territory in exchange for Ukraine giving up their nukes? Oh right - Russia's word means sh!t. PS: Stein is fully in Putin's pocket. Don't buy the Green Party BS who only exists for a few months every 4 years.

Why?

sbdhzjd 2y ago

I'm against the war in Gaza and I believe the world is too globalized driving a lot of our modern ills.

6E696365 2y ago
I already responded about Gaza in the other comment, but can you explain more about the globalization point? I'm assuming you think Trump will improve the situation, can you explain your reasoning there? I do think the CHIPs act was a step in the right direction to reduce US dependence on foreign nations.
rozap 2y ago
Me too. It was very hard to give someone (Harris) my vote when she was at best complicit in, and at worst aiding a genocide. But Trump said Netanyahu was doing a very good job and he has serious support from the most batshit insane people in AIPAC. Trump actually said they need to finish the job. Trump is not anti-intervention abroad as matter of policy, which I could support. Trump is anti-intervention (pull funding for Ukraine) when it helps his team (Russia) and pro-intervention when it helps his buddies (Miriam Adelson and her zionist ilk). I do think Trump will end the war in gaza, but it will be because Israel exterminates the remaining inhabitants and annexes it and the west bank. Mark my words. There will be no consequences for them doing so, because they have Trump and the US by the balls. And, I agree with you on the second point, that the US would be better off with stronger manufacturing. There was a lot of good stuff in the inflation reduction act and the CHIPS act. At least domestically, Biden wasn't the disaster that he was wrt foreign policy. But again, it seems like Trump's inability to stand for anything is going to cause issues. We'll get tariffs but those are a pretty blunt instrument that is going to decimate American manufacturing while it gets up to speed. It's wild that we agree on the direction of the country yet come to such different conclusions. How does this happen?
scruple 2y ago
> I'm against the war in Gaza Do the words Abraham Accords mean anything to you?
- Gibbon1 2y ago
  I feel people don't consider enough 'not my monkeys not my circus' when it comes to the Palestinians.

sbdhzjd 2y ago

Why do I loath Biden? I blame him for the war in Ukraine from back when he was made vicar in 2014. Similarly, I'm aghast with the war in Gaza, so I was on the fence on Trump.

6E696365 2y ago
Can you explain more about Biden's involvement in Ukraine or link to something I can read more about that? Why do you think Trump will be better for the war in Gaza? Genuinely asking.
- sbdhzjd 2y ago
  Biden has been meddling in Ukraine since the Maidan back in '14. He was basically in charge of the country after Maidan under Obama. Not enough has been written about this, but there's enough including a French documentary released back in 2018 or 2019. I have friends from the "wrong side" of Ukraine and their family has been shelled by Kiev since Maidan. As to Gaza, I see Trump and Kamala tied. I have to project Biden's admin onto her because otherwise she is completely devoid of content to judge her with. And this admin's record is that of Bibi bandolier. So on the bloodshed in Gaza they're tied. On the blood spilt in Ukraine Trump's ahead. Advantage Trump. Which leads me to Dr. Stein. A courageous Jewish woman who has the backbone to stand up to Bibi. EDIT: if you want to know more about it Stephen F Cohen, a lifelong liberal married to the editor of "The Nation" wrote a book about it "War with Russia?". It came out in '19 based on his weekly interviews by John Batchelor. Prof. Cohen died in '20 ('21?)
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    The same guy, in March 2014, claimed that he didn't know whether Russia had invaded Crimea.
  - sirbutters 2y ago
    It's not a tie for Gaza. Trump is the one who provoked and moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. With his SIL being jewish, and his love for authoritarian regime like Bibi's - in what world do you think he gives a flying F about Palestinians? The left disappointed us for Gaza, but Trump will be much worse. With regards to Ukraine - how do you judge the accuracy of the French documentary you watched? Who financed it? Even in a far fetched scenario where you believe Putin felt threaten with NATO closer to his borders - does that suddenly make it ok for him to invade a sovereign state? Especially given they made an agreement to respect their territory in exchange for Ukraine giving up their nukes? Oh right - Russia's word means sh!t. PS: Stein is fully in Putin's pocket. Don't buy the Green Party BS who only exists for a few months every 4 years.