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And the rise of anti intelllectualism in the USA continues to rise.

sbdhzjd 2y ago
Meh, I have a PhD in engineering from a top five school and I was in between Dr Stein and Trump. Some people really loath Biden (me), the Democrats and/or Harris.
- amarka 2y ago
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- nuforia 2y ago
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- flakespancakes 2y ago
  Maybe a PhD isn't sufficient evidence of intellectualism, then.
  - over_bridge 2y ago
    PhD should never be considered a sign of intelligence. Anyone can get one if they pay enough and don't have any better prospects
    - sbdhzjd 2y ago
      They paid me (poorly). As to better prospects, meh. I graduated with an engineering degree in the naughts.
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      Anyone can get one if they pay enough and don't have any better prospects. Not true at all (in terms of STEM degrees from legitimate schools).
  - BrickFingers 2y ago
    This is part of the rhetoric that pushed people towards Trump. Instead of asking why they didn't consider voting Democrat or why Trump was a consideration you respond with the equivalent of "well maybe you're not an intellectual" I've seen a trend of Democrats resorting to attacking anyone that has different views than they do instead of taking the time to understand. Anyone with opposing views gets labeled idiot, racist, Nazi, bigot, etc... It does nothing to bridge the gap and bring people to your side. The opposing view still exists without being challenged. I would imagine it just pushes some people into an echo chamber of their own.
    - 0dayz 2y ago
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      - returningfory2 2y ago
        Trump won the popular vote. So it seems you have two options: 1. Convince yourself that the majority of the country are in the "cult of MAGA" and that you will never win their votes. With this option Democrats will never win the Presidency again - in fact, Democrats can simplify all our lives and simply stop competing in Presidential elections! There's no point - the majority are in the "cult of MAGA" so Democrats can never win. 2. Do some introspection and realize that while a significant portion of country are in the "cult of MAGA", the reason Trump won is because another portion of the country is just fed up with the current vision of the Democratic party. https://www.slowboring.com/p/a-tale-of-two-machines https://www.slowboring.com/p/a-tale-of-two-machines Choose wisely.
        0dayz 2y ago
        1. The average voter is complicit in voting in the person into office yes or do you think that Hitler magically got elected by Aliens? That however does not correlate what so damn ever with what I said, I specifically said that people suggest democrats have to do amends with Republicans, the same base that foster actual lunatics who has called for the death of the opposition, who has said that the entire democratic party is degenerate oh and made fun of the attempted murder of Nancy Pelosi's husband. Just say that you think the victim is to be blamed and that the perpetrator is innocent because they just HAD to do it. 2. Again love the victim blaming, let's not hold each accountable for what they do no let's only hold 1 side accountable who already tries to some degree to be accountable and instead gaslight and victim blame those who expect the republicans to take the same accountability. Whenever or not people are fed up with the democrats is irrelevant when the opposition is saying actually crazy shit like "let me suspend the constitution for 1 day and I'll fix everything", sounds eerily familiar to "let me enact the enabling act, promise 1 month and I'll fix everything". So you have presented me with: 1. victim blaming and 2. victim blaming, what a good choice. But hey, hope you like me get to enjoy that juicy 20% tariff causing prices to deflate so much it causes an unsigned integer overflow.
  - sbdhzjd 2y ago
    Better evidence than party affiliation though. Love your intellectual curiosity. The choice down to Stein vs Trump didn't raise any eyebrows? Or why did I single out Biden for loathing and not Kamala (I pity) or the Democratic party?
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    The parent post was about anti-intellectualism, which is a specific distaste for the intelligence. Bragging about having a PhD is mutually exclusive with it.
    - horns4lyfe 2y ago
      Intellectualism and intelligence are not the same thing.
      - s1artibartfast 2y ago
        This is my point exactly. Independent of ones intelligence, it stands that someone with a phd isn't exactly anti-intellectualism (which is what the parent post was about, but it seems many people missed) >And the rise of anti intelllectualism in the USA continues to rise.
- bitcharmer 2y ago
  One observation doesn't count. It's quite apparent from the many street interviews that the uneducated masses voted mostly for trump
- 6E696365 2y ago
  Why?
  - sbdhzjd 2y ago
    I'm against the war in Gaza and I believe the world is too globalized driving a lot of our modern ills.
    - 6E696365 2y ago
      I already responded about Gaza in the other comment, but can you explain more about the globalization point? I'm assuming you think Trump will improve the situation, can you explain your reasoning there? I do think the CHIPs act was a step in the right direction to reduce US dependence on foreign nations.
    - rozap 2y ago
      Me too. It was very hard to give someone (Harris) my vote when she was at best complicit in, and at worst aiding a genocide. But Trump said Netanyahu was doing a very good job and he has serious support from the most batshit insane people in AIPAC. Trump actually said they need to finish the job. Trump is not anti-intervention abroad as matter of policy, which I could support. Trump is anti-intervention (pull funding for Ukraine) when it helps his team (Russia) and pro-intervention when it helps his buddies (Miriam Adelson and her zionist ilk). I do think Trump will end the war in gaza, but it will be because Israel exterminates the remaining inhabitants and annexes it and the west bank. Mark my words. There will be no consequences for them doing so, because they have Trump and the US by the balls. And, I agree with you on the second point, that the US would be better off with stronger manufacturing. There was a lot of good stuff in the inflation reduction act and the CHIPS act. At least domestically, Biden wasn't the disaster that he was wrt foreign policy. But again, it seems like Trump's inability to stand for anything is going to cause issues. We'll get tariffs but those are a pretty blunt instrument that is going to decimate American manufacturing while it gets up to speed. It's wild that we agree on the direction of the country yet come to such different conclusions. How does this happen?
    - scruple 2y ago

Meh, I have a PhD in engineering from a top five school and I was in between Dr Stein and Trump. Some people really loath Biden (me), the Democrats and/or Harris.

amarka 2y ago
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nuforia 2y ago
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flakespancakes 2y ago
Maybe a PhD isn't sufficient evidence of intellectualism, then.
- over_bridge 2y ago
  PhD should never be considered a sign of intelligence. Anyone can get one if they pay enough and don't have any better prospects
  - sbdhzjd 2y ago
    They paid me (poorly). As to better prospects, meh. I graduated with an engineering degree in the naughts.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    Anyone can get one if they pay enough and don't have any better prospects. Not true at all (in terms of STEM degrees from legitimate schools).
- BrickFingers 2y ago
  This is part of the rhetoric that pushed people towards Trump. Instead of asking why they didn't consider voting Democrat or why Trump was a consideration you respond with the equivalent of "well maybe you're not an intellectual" I've seen a trend of Democrats resorting to attacking anyone that has different views than they do instead of taking the time to understand. Anyone with opposing views gets labeled idiot, racist, Nazi, bigot, etc... It does nothing to bridge the gap and bring people to your side. The opposing view still exists without being challenged. I would imagine it just pushes some people into an echo chamber of their own.
  - 0dayz 2y ago
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    - returningfory2 2y ago
      Trump won the popular vote. So it seems you have two options: 1. Convince yourself that the majority of the country are in the "cult of MAGA" and that you will never win their votes. With this option Democrats will never win the Presidency again - in fact, Democrats can simplify all our lives and simply stop competing in Presidential elections! There's no point - the majority are in the "cult of MAGA" so Democrats can never win. 2. Do some introspection and realize that while a significant portion of country are in the "cult of MAGA", the reason Trump won is because another portion of the country is just fed up with the current vision of the Democratic party. https://www.slowboring.com/p/a-tale-of-two-machines https://www.slowboring.com/p/a-tale-of-two-machines Choose wisely.
      - 0dayz 2y ago
        1. The average voter is complicit in voting in the person into office yes or do you think that Hitler magically got elected by Aliens? That however does not correlate what so damn ever with what I said, I specifically said that people suggest democrats have to do amends with Republicans, the same base that foster actual lunatics who has called for the death of the opposition, who has said that the entire democratic party is degenerate oh and made fun of the attempted murder of Nancy Pelosi's husband. Just say that you think the victim is to be blamed and that the perpetrator is innocent because they just HAD to do it. 2. Again love the victim blaming, let's not hold each accountable for what they do no let's only hold 1 side accountable who already tries to some degree to be accountable and instead gaslight and victim blame those who expect the republicans to take the same accountability. Whenever or not people are fed up with the democrats is irrelevant when the opposition is saying actually crazy shit like "let me suspend the constitution for 1 day and I'll fix everything", sounds eerily familiar to "let me enact the enabling act, promise 1 month and I'll fix everything". So you have presented me with: 1. victim blaming and 2. victim blaming, what a good choice. But hey, hope you like me get to enjoy that juicy 20% tariff causing prices to deflate so much it causes an unsigned integer overflow.
- sbdhzjd 2y ago
  Better evidence than party affiliation though. Love your intellectual curiosity. The choice down to Stein vs Trump didn't raise any eyebrows? Or why did I single out Biden for loathing and not Kamala (I pity) or the Democratic party?
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  The parent post was about anti-intellectualism, which is a specific distaste for the intelligence. Bragging about having a PhD is mutually exclusive with it.
  - horns4lyfe 2y ago
    Intellectualism and intelligence are not the same thing.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      This is my point exactly. Independent of ones intelligence, it stands that someone with a phd isn't exactly anti-intellectualism (which is what the parent post was about, but it seems many people missed) >And the rise of anti intelllectualism in the USA continues to rise.
bitcharmer 2y ago
One observation doesn't count. It's quite apparent from the many street interviews that the uneducated masses voted mostly for trump
6E696365 2y ago
Why?
- sbdhzjd 2y ago
  I'm against the war in Gaza and I believe the world is too globalized driving a lot of our modern ills.
  - 6E696365 2y ago
    I already responded about Gaza in the other comment, but can you explain more about the globalization point? I'm assuming you think Trump will improve the situation, can you explain your reasoning there? I do think the CHIPs act was a step in the right direction to reduce US dependence on foreign nations.
  - rozap 2y ago
    Me too. It was very hard to give someone (Harris) my vote when she was at best complicit in, and at worst aiding a genocide. But Trump said Netanyahu was doing a very good job and he has serious support from the most batshit insane people in AIPAC. Trump actually said they need to finish the job. Trump is not anti-intervention abroad as matter of policy, which I could support. Trump is anti-intervention (pull funding for Ukraine) when it helps his team (Russia) and pro-intervention when it helps his buddies (Miriam Adelson and her zionist ilk). I do think Trump will end the war in gaza, but it will be because Israel exterminates the remaining inhabitants and annexes it and the west bank. Mark my words. There will be no consequences for them doing so, because they have Trump and the US by the balls. And, I agree with you on the second point, that the US would be better off with stronger manufacturing. There was a lot of good stuff in the inflation reduction act and the CHIPS act. At least domestically, Biden wasn't the disaster that he was wrt foreign policy. But again, it seems like Trump's inability to stand for anything is going to cause issues. We'll get tariffs but those are a pretty blunt instrument that is going to decimate American manufacturing while it gets up to speed. It's wild that we agree on the direction of the country yet come to such different conclusions. How does this happen?
  - scruple 2y ago