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charging the magic mouse for two minutes will give you weeks of battery life

ryandrake 2y ago
The point is that a peripheral device should not be unusable while it’s charging, whether that charge takes two seconds, two minutes, or two hours. I can’t think of any other recent electronics device that cannot be used while charging.
- stephenr 2y ago
  I can't use my watch while I charge it. Nor my earbuds. Nor my portable Bluetooth speaker. None of those can give me any meaningful amount of use time (and definitely not enough for a full work day) from a 2 minute charge. My mouse can. The port location is not a problem. The constant whining about it from people who largely don't use it is more annoying than any disruption a charge cycle causes.
  - hu3 2y ago
    It's basic logic why why watches and earbuds generaly don't charge while in use. So bad example there. If my Logitech G502 Lightspeed mouse couldn't charge while in use, I wouldn't even consider buying it. Because when I pay for premium service, I expect premium delivery. Anything else is fanboyism, handwaving and/or stockholm syndrome. Specially because previous generation of apple's mice could be charged while in use. I don't know why you're so upset on defending a downgrade with zero tradeoffs, only to end up with an inferior product.
    - stephenr 2y ago
      > If my Logitech G502 mouse couldn't charge while in use, I wouldn't even consider buying it. Similarly, if a mouse doesn't support touch gestures I wouldn't consider buying it. I guess we both make compromises: you never have gesture support, I maybe can't use the mouse for two minutes while I go make a coffee if I forget to charge it overnight once a month. > Specially because previous generation of apple's mice could be charged while in use. The first version of the Magic Mouse required you to change AA batteries, and its predecessor was a wired USB mouse. Not really sure how you think either of those is charging while you use it?
      - hu3 2y ago
        Gestures suck for me. I prefer many physical buttons for reliable macros :) But when it comes to charging, there's no reason to just happily accept and defend an inferior solution for no tradeoff whatsoever.
        stephenr 2y ago
        Here's a hint: the thing you clearly think is "inferior"... I don't even think about at all. It's literally a non issue that gets paraded out by people who don't use it at every opportunity.
        hu3 2y ago
        It is inferior :) Sorry When my mouse starts blinking I just plug cable and continue whatever I'm doing and it's a solved problem. No second guessing if I can take a break now in the middle of a meeting, no unnecessary cognitive load, no need to remember to charge it when "I have the time", it's... magical. It just works.
        stephenr 2y ago
        Personally I don't find it to be a particularly huge "cognitive load" to see a "mouse battery is low, charge soon" notification and then just charge it at the end of the day. But for those that do, it's great that we have choices.
- Tagbert 2y ago
  Yes, but the other point is that, in a practical sense, it is not really a problem. Just a silly design decision. I expect, if they ever get around to redesigning that mouse, they’ll change the port, if only to avoid derision. The recent port change was not enough to warrant moving the port. That front edge is quite thin so there may not be enough room in the current case.
- grouchomarx 2y ago
  >The point is that a peripheral device should not be unusable while it’s charging why?
hu3 2y ago
unnecessary limitation if it was a cheap chinese tier 3 mice that would still be debatable let alone overpriced hardware
- deleted 2y ago
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The point is that a peripheral device should not be unusable while it’s charging, whether that charge takes two seconds, two minutes, or two hours. I can’t think of any other recent electronics device that cannot be used while charging.

stephenr 2y ago
I can't use my watch while I charge it. Nor my earbuds. Nor my portable Bluetooth speaker. None of those can give me any meaningful amount of use time (and definitely not enough for a full work day) from a 2 minute charge. My mouse can. The port location is not a problem. The constant whining about it from people who largely don't use it is more annoying than any disruption a charge cycle causes.
- hu3 2y ago
  It's basic logic why why watches and earbuds generaly don't charge while in use. So bad example there. If my Logitech G502 Lightspeed mouse couldn't charge while in use, I wouldn't even consider buying it. Because when I pay for premium service, I expect premium delivery. Anything else is fanboyism, handwaving and/or stockholm syndrome. Specially because previous generation of apple's mice could be charged while in use. I don't know why you're so upset on defending a downgrade with zero tradeoffs, only to end up with an inferior product.
  - stephenr 2y ago
    > If my Logitech G502 mouse couldn't charge while in use, I wouldn't even consider buying it. Similarly, if a mouse doesn't support touch gestures I wouldn't consider buying it. I guess we both make compromises: you never have gesture support, I maybe can't use the mouse for two minutes while I go make a coffee if I forget to charge it overnight once a month. > Specially because previous generation of apple's mice could be charged while in use. The first version of the Magic Mouse required you to change AA batteries, and its predecessor was a wired USB mouse. Not really sure how you think either of those is charging while you use it?
    - hu3 2y ago
      Gestures suck for me. I prefer many physical buttons for reliable macros :) But when it comes to charging, there's no reason to just happily accept and defend an inferior solution for no tradeoff whatsoever.
      - stephenr 2y ago
        Here's a hint: the thing you clearly think is "inferior"... I don't even think about at all. It's literally a non issue that gets paraded out by people who don't use it at every opportunity.
        hu3 2y ago
        It is inferior :) Sorry When my mouse starts blinking I just plug cable and continue whatever I'm doing and it's a solved problem. No second guessing if I can take a break now in the middle of a meeting, no unnecessary cognitive load, no need to remember to charge it when "I have the time", it's... magical. It just works.
        stephenr 2y ago
        Personally I don't find it to be a particularly huge "cognitive load" to see a "mouse battery is low, charge soon" notification and then just charge it at the end of the day. But for those that do, it's great that we have choices.
Tagbert 2y ago
Yes, but the other point is that, in a practical sense, it is not really a problem. Just a silly design decision. I expect, if they ever get around to redesigning that mouse, they’ll change the port, if only to avoid derision. The recent port change was not enough to warrant moving the port. That front edge is quite thin so there may not be enough room in the current case.
grouchomarx 2y ago
>The point is that a peripheral device should not be unusable while it’s charging why?

hu3 2y ago

unnecessary limitation if it was a cheap chinese tier 3 mice that would still be debatable let alone overpriced hardware

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