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agreed. Dart even though it has some awesome features, is still a technology preview, so I also wonder when it will be "stable" (some apis aren't "finished" yet

agreed. Dart even though it has some awesome features, is still a technology preview, so I also wonder when it will be "stable" (some apis aren't "finished" yet) and it's a Google only thing. On the project's github page, you can read "The problem with JavaScript is that it sucks." ... JavaScript sucks if you don't know how it works, just like another language ... and what's the point of writting this when Dart itself compiles to JavaScript (who the fuck uses Dartium as their primary browser), finally the demo throws 18 errors ... fail.

detst 14y ago
> so I also wonder when it will be "stable" It should be out of technology preview later this year. > JavaScript sucks if you don't know how it works It's possible to understand JS and want better. I think the people behind V8 and Dart know how JS works. > what's the point of writting this when Dart itself compiles to JavaScript What's the point of writing anything in any language? The Dart VM will be included with Chrome and other browsers are free to include one, too; Dart->JS is for browsers that don't and the goal is that it'll perform similar to hand-written JS. > who the fuck uses Dartium as their primary browser Nobody. It's for development until the Dart VM is included with Chrome.
- cnp 14y ago
  Exactly -- that's why this is exciting, particularly the Flash / interactive part. The authors have done a very good job with what they have to work with, with the assumption that they're only working with a preview and that the primary medium will be a VM with a JS fallback. The performance, all said, is very, very good.
novalis 14y ago
"finally the demo throws 18 errors ... fail." I just runned it on FireFox and Chrome, and it didn't have a single error, you running the demo on what browser ? Did you even run the demo ? This is a good start for anyone wanting to learn what Dartium is: http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/google-has-released-dartium-a-chromium-build-with-a-dart-vm/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/google-has-released-... Stay happy.

detst 14y ago

> so I also wonder when it will be "stable" It should be out of technology preview later this year. > JavaScript sucks if you don't know how it works It's possible to understand JS and want better. I think the people behind V8 and Dart know how JS works. > what's the point of writting this when Dart itself compiles to JavaScript What's the point of writing anything in any language? The Dart VM will be included with Chrome and other browsers are free to include one, too; Dart->JS is for browsers that don't and the goal is that it'll perform similar to hand-written JS. > who the fuck uses Dartium as their primary browser Nobody. It's for development until the Dart VM is included with Chrome.

cnp 14y ago
Exactly -- that's why this is exciting, particularly the Flash / interactive part. The authors have done a very good job with what they have to work with, with the assumption that they're only working with a preview and that the primary medium will be a VM with a JS fallback. The performance, all said, is very, very good.

novalis 14y ago

"finally the demo throws 18 errors ... fail." I just runned it on FireFox and Chrome, and it didn't have a single error, you running the demo on what browser ? Did you even run the demo ? This is a good start for anyone wanting to learn what Dartium is: http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/google-has-released-dartium-a-chromium-build-with-a-dart-vm/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/google-has-released-... Stay happy.