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It's kind of admirable, though. If you start asking for $7T, only asking for $1T becomes quite reasonable ;-)

by cal5k 2y ago

lyu07282 2y ago
Only if they stop laughing long enough for them to hear your second offer
- yreg 2y ago
  Well they did stop laughing, hence this thread.
  - discreteevent 2y ago
    Not really. The plans to build a foundry have been dropped. It's more a cautionary tale that at some point you will end up in an environment that's closer to reality where your bullshit is a liability. It was reported that the TSMC people called him a 'podcasting bro'. In other words, they lost all respect for anything he was saying.
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latexr 2y ago
That only works if the initial request isn’t so bonkers that no one can trust subsequent ones.
- cal5k 2y ago
  True. I think Sam might get a "bonkers" pass because of his track record that the rest of us might not.
  - latexr 2y ago
    He’s exactly the person I wouldn’t give a pass to, because of his track record. I wouldn’t give a penny to a cryptocurrency scammer. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-... https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-biometrics-web3/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi... Especially not one whose business plan is “let’s invent fairytale technology then ask it how to make money”. https://x.com/geepytee/status/1778859803735113950 https://x.com/geepytee/status/1778859803735113950 If all of that sounds good to you, I know of a bridge you may be interested in purchasing.
    - ionwake 2y ago
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      - latexr 2y ago
        I’m not your bro. The thing that’s absolutely wrong (and quite frankly inscrutable) about people who think like you is that you all believe everyone is money hungry like yourselves and you are utterly incapable of imagining anyone whose life doesn’t revolve around wealth. Most people aren’t envious of “crypto bros” nor are they mad they didn’t “get rich” in a zero-sum scam most lost money on. That’s how you would feel. Fortunately the world is more diverse than that and there are people with healthier priorities.
        ionwake 2y ago
        Hey you make great points, but you assumed some things incorrectly. 1) I never said people were envious of "crypto bros". 2) I never said I was rich or cared for money. My main priority is family. I think you might have some issues about late stage capitalism, but for that I do salute you. Ill repeat what I was trying to say so its clearer. I think there is potential in AI , and Bitcoin was a fantastic piece of software. I am confused why people on HN had so much trouble adopting these technologies. yeah AI and Bitcoin have shortfalls in their design, but Bitcoin is used by alot of people now, and so is AI. Those are my points. I don’t know you, so I won’t make assumptions. Free yourself from early judgments; often, those you clash with share more in common with you than you might realize bro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC2A5dya72A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC2A5dya72A
  - ummonk 2y ago
    What track record does he have?
notyourwork 2y ago
Shoot for the stars and you get to the moon.
- paul7986 2y ago
  and fake it before you make it ...im still waiting for GPT's version of H.E.R.... many months later nowhere to be found yet no doubt that juiced their revenue. The startup playbook lie ur ass off and make sh!t up. Musk still does it to this day with the recent demo of his Optimus robots implying they were all AI driven.
  - ionwake 2y ago
    I have to say I’m really weirded out by the decision to sort of pretend they weren’t remotely controlled
    - paul7986 2y ago
      why that's what many start-uppers do to win the startup game ..fake it .. lie. Would you trust your life to Elon's self driving tech which you sign away your rights to sue lol Some with deadly consequences like Uber's attempt at self driving and what was that other recent self driving company that ran over / mangled a pedestrian?
      - ionwake 2y ago
        Yes but in this case it was clearly apparent to most and to those who spoke with the robot and believed it must have felt like morons for being filmed thinking they were real. I just felt the benefits weren’t there as it was an obvious fakery. Tbh when they had the real person on the suit I wouldn’t have approved that it would give the impression I’m ok with pretending to an extent. I understand having a half working prototype iPhone on stage but literally pretending the robots are real just felt dishonest and a bad idea. But hey I’m not a Vc
        paul7986 2y ago

It's kind of admirable, though. If you start asking for $7T, only asking for $1T becomes quite reasonable ;-)

by cal5k 2y ago

It's kind of admirable, though. If you start asking for $7T, only asking for $1T becomes quite reasonable ;-)

lyu07282 2y ago

Only if they stop laughing long enough for them to hear your second offer

yreg 2y ago
Well they did stop laughing, hence this thread.
- discreteevent 2y ago
  Not really. The plans to build a foundry have been dropped. It's more a cautionary tale that at some point you will end up in an environment that's closer to reality where your bullshit is a liability. It was reported that the TSMC people called him a 'podcasting bro'. In other words, they lost all respect for anything he was saying.

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latexr 2y ago

That only works if the initial request isn’t so bonkers that no one can trust subsequent ones.

cal5k 2y ago
True. I think Sam might get a "bonkers" pass because of his track record that the rest of us might not.
- latexr 2y ago
  He’s exactly the person I wouldn’t give a pass to, because of his track record. I wouldn’t give a penny to a cryptocurrency scammer. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-... https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-biometrics-web3/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi... Especially not one whose business plan is “let’s invent fairytale technology then ask it how to make money”. https://x.com/geepytee/status/1778859803735113950 https://x.com/geepytee/status/1778859803735113950 If all of that sounds good to you, I know of a bridge you may be interested in purchasing.
  - ionwake 2y ago
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    - latexr 2y ago
      I’m not your bro. The thing that’s absolutely wrong (and quite frankly inscrutable) about people who think like you is that you all believe everyone is money hungry like yourselves and you are utterly incapable of imagining anyone whose life doesn’t revolve around wealth. Most people aren’t envious of “crypto bros” nor are they mad they didn’t “get rich” in a zero-sum scam most lost money on. That’s how you would feel. Fortunately the world is more diverse than that and there are people with healthier priorities.
      - ionwake 2y ago
        Hey you make great points, but you assumed some things incorrectly. 1) I never said people were envious of "crypto bros". 2) I never said I was rich or cared for money. My main priority is family. I think you might have some issues about late stage capitalism, but for that I do salute you. Ill repeat what I was trying to say so its clearer. I think there is potential in AI , and Bitcoin was a fantastic piece of software. I am confused why people on HN had so much trouble adopting these technologies. yeah AI and Bitcoin have shortfalls in their design, but Bitcoin is used by alot of people now, and so is AI. Those are my points. I don’t know you, so I won’t make assumptions. Free yourself from early judgments; often, those you clash with share more in common with you than you might realize bro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC2A5dya72A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC2A5dya72A
- ummonk 2y ago
  What track record does he have?

notyourwork 2y ago

Shoot for the stars and you get to the moon.

paul7986 2y ago
and fake it before you make it ...im still waiting for GPT's version of H.E.R.... many months later nowhere to be found yet no doubt that juiced their revenue. The startup playbook lie ur ass off and make sh!t up. Musk still does it to this day with the recent demo of his Optimus robots implying they were all AI driven.
- ionwake 2y ago
  I have to say I’m really weirded out by the decision to sort of pretend they weren’t remotely controlled
  - paul7986 2y ago
    why that's what many start-uppers do to win the startup game ..fake it .. lie. Would you trust your life to Elon's self driving tech which you sign away your rights to sue lol Some with deadly consequences like Uber's attempt at self driving and what was that other recent self driving company that ran over / mangled a pedestrian?
    - ionwake 2y ago
      Yes but in this case it was clearly apparent to most and to those who spoke with the robot and believed it must have felt like morons for being filmed thinking they were real. I just felt the benefits weren’t there as it was an obvious fakery. Tbh when they had the real person on the suit I wouldn’t have approved that it would give the impression I’m ok with pretending to an extent. I understand having a half working prototype iPhone on stage but literally pretending the robots are real just felt dishonest and a bad idea. But hey I’m not a Vc
      - paul7986 2y ago