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That’s strange since the Cybertruck doesn’t meet European regulations (at the very least UN-R26) due to pedestrian safety. Not sure if there is a workaround if

That’s strange since the Cybertruck doesn’t meet European regulations (at the very least UN-R26) due to pedestrian safety. Not sure if there is a workaround if someone imports it as their personal vehicle though.

EE84M3i 2y ago
Perhaps there's some sort of exception if it's just for exhibition? If there wasn't, I suppose it would be difficult to have things like museums, auto shows, etc
- rightbyte 2y ago
  There is an exemption for formal road legality for vehicle development and sales in all countries I've been working in with vehicle development and testing.
maeil 2y ago
Obviously it's legal to own and display road-illegal vehicles. Just think about open-wheel racing, including go-karts. Just can't drive them on the road. The truck will have been transported inside a bigger truck or on top of a car transporter.
- Neonlicht 2y ago
  You can't get road insurance for them either.
frugalmail 2y ago
If it's strictly the height that's the issue Tesla can make it so it's software locked not to surpass a certain height on paved roads or geo fence it.
- moooo99 2y ago
  It’s not strictly about height, that is only one of the factors. Modern cars usually have pedestrian safety systems that the cybertruck does not have by design.
  - mbrumlow 2y ago
    I keep seeing people say this. What are these? Have you seen a hummer or a ford F2 or f350? What about a Lexus LS or GX? Cadillac Escalade or Lincoln Navigator? What about a Camry other than its size specifically is for pedestrians when hit? Then we have the smart car. A small bubble designed to not crush. Fairly sure if that thing hits somebody they are not going to be “gee I am glad that the car makers made this car so safe for me being hit by it” I can think very hard what a car would look like that would be pedestrian safe, and what features it would have. And none of any cars today look like they would be safe. As for features for safety only one comes in mind, automatic breaking for pedestrians. As for the cyber truck. The bend up front looks a lot more safe than most of the other pointy cars.
    - GoToRO 2y ago
      A hood low enough to throw the pedestrian over the car. Enough space under the hood to allow enough deformation to prevent serious head injury (main reason the pedestrian is killed as I remember). Hood "airbags" that lift the hood up, adding even more space to decelerate the pedestrian (as I remember, this was optional but available to car manufacturers). Normally new cars should come with emergency braking. As I remember, emergency braking is the only new technology to challenge the seat belt in efficiency. All the other safety features are almost marginal on how effective they are. I don't know if the cybertruck has it, but I think the EU regulations might be a little behind the times, not yet recognizing the efficiency of emergency braking.
      - moooo99 2y ago
        > EU regulations might be a little behind the times, not yet recognizing the efficiency of emergency braking Emergency breaking system have been a mandatory assistance system for a while now (afaik it was introduced mid 2022). Admittedly, I don’t know how efficient they actually are in preventing injuries from pedestrians. I just know that from my experience driving with these systems, they occasionally do seem not quite there. I’ve had my car warn me from hitting a guy that was happily walking on the sidewalk but completely ignore people taking a pedestrian crossing (maybe because I was already breaking myself). So yeah, tech is great and all. But having design considerations as a completely passive system like your front bumper breaking off on colission still seems essential

EE84M3i 2y ago

Perhaps there's some sort of exception if it's just for exhibition? If there wasn't, I suppose it would be difficult to have things like museums, auto shows, etc

rightbyte 2y ago
There is an exemption for formal road legality for vehicle development and sales in all countries I've been working in with vehicle development and testing.

maeil 2y ago

Obviously it's legal to own and display road-illegal vehicles. Just think about open-wheel racing, including go-karts. Just can't drive them on the road. The truck will have been transported inside a bigger truck or on top of a car transporter.

Neonlicht 2y ago
You can't get road insurance for them either.

frugalmail 2y ago

If it's strictly the height that's the issue Tesla can make it so it's software locked not to surpass a certain height on paved roads or geo fence it.

moooo99 2y ago
It’s not strictly about height, that is only one of the factors. Modern cars usually have pedestrian safety systems that the cybertruck does not have by design.
- mbrumlow 2y ago
  I keep seeing people say this. What are these? Have you seen a hummer or a ford F2 or f350? What about a Lexus LS or GX? Cadillac Escalade or Lincoln Navigator? What about a Camry other than its size specifically is for pedestrians when hit? Then we have the smart car. A small bubble designed to not crush. Fairly sure if that thing hits somebody they are not going to be “gee I am glad that the car makers made this car so safe for me being hit by it” I can think very hard what a car would look like that would be pedestrian safe, and what features it would have. And none of any cars today look like they would be safe. As for features for safety only one comes in mind, automatic breaking for pedestrians. As for the cyber truck. The bend up front looks a lot more safe than most of the other pointy cars.
  - GoToRO 2y ago
    A hood low enough to throw the pedestrian over the car. Enough space under the hood to allow enough deformation to prevent serious head injury (main reason the pedestrian is killed as I remember). Hood "airbags" that lift the hood up, adding even more space to decelerate the pedestrian (as I remember, this was optional but available to car manufacturers). Normally new cars should come with emergency braking. As I remember, emergency braking is the only new technology to challenge the seat belt in efficiency. All the other safety features are almost marginal on how effective they are. I don't know if the cybertruck has it, but I think the EU regulations might be a little behind the times, not yet recognizing the efficiency of emergency braking.
    - moooo99 2y ago
      > EU regulations might be a little behind the times, not yet recognizing the efficiency of emergency braking Emergency breaking system have been a mandatory assistance system for a while now (afaik it was introduced mid 2022). Admittedly, I don’t know how efficient they actually are in preventing injuries from pedestrians. I just know that from my experience driving with these systems, they occasionally do seem not quite there. I’ve had my car warn me from hitting a guy that was happily walking on the sidewalk but completely ignore people taking a pedestrian crossing (maybe because I was already breaking myself). So yeah, tech is great and all. But having design considerations as a completely passive system like your front bumper breaking off on colission still seems essential