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Privacy laws actually work! Let’s pass more of them. > Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2
by nurtbo 2y ago
Privacy laws actually work! Let’s pass more of them.
> Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2024, will be shared with participating stores where you shop, *unless you live in California, North Dakota, or Vermont.* For PayPal customers in California, North Dakota, or Vermont, we’ll only share your information with those merchants if you tell us to do so
- darknavi 2y agoThis is so open faced and gross. It reminds of someone talking about getting paid minimum wage. If you get paid minimum wage, what your employer is saying is, "I would pay you less if I was legally allowed to do so." It also reminds me of State Farm's (auto/home insurance in the US) website with this link at the bottom: > Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information (CA residents only)
- toomuchtodo 2y agoDon’t get mad, get active. Keep cranking on the policy ratchet, progress and success is clearly possible.
- tekknik 2y agoThe “progress” is driving a wedge so deep in US society that many think there won’t be a country left after the progressives are done. They have all but destroyed any national identity and made us very easy to invade and continue to try to do so with gun control laws. you’re happy about progress, I’m terrified because the progressives don’t consider whether something they want is good or bad for the country, they just demand it regardless.
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- toomuchtodo 2y agoMy comment speaks specifically to consumer/citizen data privacy, which shouldn’t be a partisan or contentious issue (imho).
- tekknik 2y agothen reword it.
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- mrkramer 2y agoThat's what Disqus has at the bottom of every of their comments section[0]. I find it ridiculous. [0] https://electricdusk.com/img/disqus-gdpr-violation-marketing.png https://electricdusk.com/img/disqus-gdpr-violation-marketing...
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoI would like a tax relating to privacy violations to be retroactive in all these other states. It’s actually legal to apply a retroactive tax, so why not?
- seneca 2y ago> If you get paid minimum wage, what your employer is saying is, "I would pay you less if I was legally allowed to do so." The minimum wage is the government saying "if you produce less value than this arbitrary cut off, you aren't allowed to work".
- krapp 2y agoNo it isn't, because wages aren't set based on some objective measurement of the quality of value produced. If that were the case, increases in productivity would have resulted in a commensurate increase in wages, but the only increase is the gap between wages and productivity.
- tekknik 2y agoSo all of the AI engineers getting large bonuses it has nothing to do with the value? What you’ve described here is the way it’s supposed to work. But after decades of “progress” in removing morality you see the wage gap problem now.
- kelnos 2y agoAh, lovely, you're one of those people. If you produce less value than the cutoff (whatever that means; wages are set based on how little a company can get away with paying, not on some arbitrary "value" you've assigned to the work), companies that employ you still have to pay you a living wage. Or not even, since minimum wage usually lags a living wage. The funny thing is, I bet you're also the kind of person who is against welfare programs. So if the minimum wage didn't exist, people in these sorts of jobs would get paid so little that they'd end up on welfare. Not sure how that would be an improvement.
- eadmund 2y ago> If you produce less value than the [minimum wage], companies that employ you still have to pay you True enough, I suppose, but … if one produces less than one costs, a company will not employ one. Why would a company employ someone who produces less than he costs?
- heavensteeth 2y ago> If you get paid minimum wage, what your employer is saying is, "I would pay you less if I was legally allowed to do so." Doesn't this apply to all pay rates? It's not like high-paying jobs are high-paying for the love in the employer's heart. When does a wage stop being gross? 1c over minimum wage? $1 over?
- tmpz22 2y agoIn 1999 the show writers of the West Wing accurately predicated this in an episode about the selection of a Supreme Court Judge: "It's not just about abortion, it's about the next 20 years. In the '20s and '30s it was the role of government. '50s and '60s it was civil rights. The next two decades are going to be privacy. I'm talking about the Internet. I'm talking about cell phones. I'm talking about health records and who's gay and who's not. And moreover, in a country born on the will to be free, what could be more fundamental than this?" - Sam Seaborn (Rob Lowe) West Wing (ep: The Short List) 1999 - We've seen massive breaches of EMR systems - We've seen massive breeahes from dating apps (Grindr) outing Gay individuals - None of these entities faced significant consequences for their actions and continue to operate with large amounts of profit. - 2 years after this episode the Patriot Act was passed. We've failed on privacy so far.
- SturgeonsLaw 2y agoImagine if the real government was as competent and good faith as the West Wing government
- switch007 2y agoRight! The West Wing was political porn, and I loved it (and still re-watch it occasionally)
- m463 2y agoThe government has failed the constituents. Regulatory capture is still the highest ROI investment, and we should work on that.
- potato3732842 2y agoIt's a perverse feedback loop. The more power the .gov has to regulate the better the ROI of regulatory capture.' I'm not sure how we get out of this situation without it getting way worse.
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- LegitShady 2y agoyou know what works better? delete your paypal account and dont use them as a service. I did this years ago and in fact have never missed not having one of these accounts. and since I'm not using paypal they're not sharing info on my to stores when i shop, whether my local laws allow it or not.
- OJFord 2y agoThey refuse to delete the account I never intentionally created (their scammy credit card checkout tactics when I had no other option) unless I provide them a bunch of data I've never previously given them in order to 'verify' my identity.
- tekknik 2y agoDo you live in one of the states with privacy protections? If so, threaten them or turn them into the AG for the state.
- guywithahat 2y agoThey also raise the bar of entry for companies, reducing competition. I don't use PayPal and won't use Venmo in stores because of this, however I certainly wouldn't be putting trust in more legislation solving this.
- davidlumley 2y agoCan you explain what bar has been raised unless you were planning to sell PII as part of your business model?
- rrix2 2y agoI live in Oregon but they opted me out by default, perhaps because I have an old CA address in my list of old delivery addresses?