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Exactly. The whole super shoe discourse is really tired at this point. Shoes changed. Now all of the shoes have carbon plates. The athletes are still incredibl
by code_runner 2y ago
Exactly. The whole super shoe discourse is really tired at this point.
Shoes changed. Now all of the shoes have carbon plates. The athletes are still incredible… nobody is getting one of these shoes and becoming some super star overnight.
We let the athletes drink hyper specialized drink mixtures based on studying their sweat content and even adjusting the drinks for their perspiration level during the race.
The shoe foam and carbon plates sell more expensive shoes.
- a012 2y agoSo you’re saying the athletes have perks that optimize their performance, not _boosting_ performance which is doping.
- schiffern 2y agoWhat's the difference between "optimizing" and "boosting?" Be specific.
- fnordpiglet 2y agoMedical inducement of physiological changes that wouldn’t occur naturally without intervention.
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- krisoft 2y agoSo like for example training? Should we ban anyone who has run before (any distance, ever in life) for doping? Training definietly induces physiological changes that wouldn’t occur naturally without doing it.
- g8oz 2y agoTraining is not a medical inducment
- woleium 2y agoit is if a doctor prescribes it
- fnordpiglet 2y agoNo, it’s still not. Medical interventions or treatments are not definitionally “something a doctor says.” Generally it’s the use of atypical substances or physical modification to create a response in the body that wouldn’t otherwise naturally occur. Broadly speaking it’s the “stuff the fda would be able to regulate,” which exercise is clearly not.
- woleium 2y agoi beg to differ. Medical intervention refers to any action or process undertaken by healthcare professionals with the aim of diagnosing, treating, preventing, or improving a person’s health condition or functioning. https://medcraveonline.com/MOJPH/MOJPH-09-00314.pdf https://medcraveonline.com/MOJPH/MOJPH-09-00314.pdf
- krisoft 2y agoWhat is "medical inducment"? It is not a term I'm familiar with.
- fnordpiglet 2y agoSeriously - internet grammar and spelling pedantry?
- krisoft 2y agoI didn’t even notice the spelling. What i was asking is what is “medical inducement” or “medical intervention” in your opinion.
- cdirkx 2y agoTraining was considered to be "bad sportmanship" in the early days of soccer, when it was amateur gentlemen sport clubs playing against each other.
- fnordpiglet 2y agoTraining isn’t a medical intervention. A medical intervention is typically a drug, surgery, or other intervention. I think the term is probably on the surface understandable as not being exercise, diet, or other normal every day use of the body unless you’re being particularly “internet obtuse.”
- krisoft 2y ago> Training isn’t a medical intervention. You didn’t say medical intervention in your previous post. You said “Medical inducement” which is a term i’m not familiar with. Let me think now about it again. Sounds like you just declared anyone doping who is taking multivitamin suplements. It is a medical intervention (a drug), it induces a physiological change, wouldn’t occur naturaly. Sounds like it is doping! Or anyone who had a dental cavity filled. It is a medical intervention (a surgery), it induces a physiological change, wouldn’t occur naturaly. Clearly beneficial to an athlete, since someone without tooth ache can concentrate more. Ban them all those dopers! > unless you’re being particularly “internet obtuse” Look, it is not me who offered a simple definition of what is and isn’t doping. Simple answers are almost always wrong. There is a reason why real doping regulations are hundreds of pages long. If they could write a one sentence rulebook they would. They are just trying to ban real doping without also baning dental fillings, training and multivitamins.
- number6 2y agoI would like to see this as companion event to the Olympic, just to se how layperson's would fare
- achileas 2y agoNo, doping is a specific set of techniques that use proteins (EPO) or specially extracted blood to boost the red blood cell count in the blood, increasing oxygen carrying capacity. Anything else is just marketing.
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