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Paul Buchheit's idea for better file uploads on browsers -- anyone want to pledge to or develop it?

6 points by rnc000 19y ago

Jd 19y ago
"I'm serious about this, and willing to pay quite a bit of money to make it happen." $17 does not strike me as a lot of money. Has anyone used and had success with this micropledge site?
- ivankirigin 19y ago
  It's very new.
- benhoyt 19y ago
  "$17 does not strike me as a lot of money". True. Obviously Paul hasn't pledged yet. :-) microPledge is only a few days post-launch, so success stories are low in numbers just yet. But of course we look forward to them coming in slowly but surely.
  - Jd 19y ago
    Ah, well good luck then. Tallyho!
mynameishere 19y ago
http://jupload.sourceforge.net/applet-basic.html http://jupload.sourceforge.net/applet-basic.html Done. Oh, right. No one likes Java. (I'm a little perplexed as to why the author defaulted to the nasty metal L&F).
- benhoyt 19y ago
  For better or worse -- better, IMHO -- Buchheit's spec on his blog entry rules out Java. Quote: "Unfortunately, Java applets don't actually work, and after 11 years of not working, I'm not expecting that to change."
  - mynameishere 19y ago
    My experience is contrary to that. I've deployed applets to the general public with success. (No, not 100 percent, but the same can be said of javascript and flash.) Try out the link for yourself, though.
    - benhoyt 19y ago
      Hmmm ... I guess I'm not the general public, but I'm running a fairly generic install of Firefox 2.0, and the page comes up with a big grey box with a red X in it. I'm not actually sure why this is, as I'm sure I've had some Java apps working in the past. Update: Oh, the Java console shows something about an "UnsupportedClassVersionError".
      - nostrademons 19y ago
        That happens when you try to run a Java app that was compiled with a newer compiler on an older VM. Most likely, the demo was built with Java 1.6 and you've still got 1.5. It's working on my browser. ...It's also slow to load and incredibly clunky. Why, Swing, did you have to reimplement every native widget so that none of them look the way we expect? I think Paul's "no Java applets" remark is on the money here.
daltonlp 19y ago
SWFUpload has worked awesomely for me: http://labb.dev.mammon.se/swfupload/ http://labb.dev.mammon.se/swfupload/
- benhoyt 19y ago
  That's pretty sweet! Good link -- I'll keep that in mind. (Though it doesn't do two of the things Paul was after: open a better file-select dialog, and do local data processing on the file before sending it.)
- kingnothing 19y ago
  Doesn't work in Opera on Ubuntu.
sbraford 19y ago
I don't get it -- Flash is already ubiquitous. Why does Paul want to boil the ocean? Even multi-file Flash uploaders with progress bar indicators are free and plentiful. My favorite: http://www.element-it.com/MultiPowUpload.aspx http://www.element-it.com/MultiPowUpload.aspx The only trick is getting Flash to pass session variables or some other way for the server to authenticate the user.

6 points by rnc000 19y ago

Jd 19y ago

"I'm serious about this, and willing to pay quite a bit of money to make it happen." $17 does not strike me as a lot of money. Has anyone used and had success with this micropledge site?

ivankirigin 19y ago
It's very new.
benhoyt 19y ago
"$17 does not strike me as a lot of money". True. Obviously Paul hasn't pledged yet. :-) microPledge is only a few days post-launch, so success stories are low in numbers just yet. But of course we look forward to them coming in slowly but surely.
- Jd 19y ago
  Ah, well good luck then. Tallyho!

mynameishere 19y ago

http://jupload.sourceforge.net/applet-basic.html http://jupload.sourceforge.net/applet-basic.html Done. Oh, right. No one likes Java. (I'm a little perplexed as to why the author defaulted to the nasty metal L&F).

benhoyt 19y ago
For better or worse -- better, IMHO -- Buchheit's spec on his blog entry rules out Java. Quote: "Unfortunately, Java applets don't actually work, and after 11 years of not working, I'm not expecting that to change."
- mynameishere 19y ago
  My experience is contrary to that. I've deployed applets to the general public with success. (No, not 100 percent, but the same can be said of javascript and flash.) Try out the link for yourself, though.
  - benhoyt 19y ago
    Hmmm ... I guess I'm not the general public, but I'm running a fairly generic install of Firefox 2.0, and the page comes up with a big grey box with a red X in it. I'm not actually sure why this is, as I'm sure I've had some Java apps working in the past. Update: Oh, the Java console shows something about an "UnsupportedClassVersionError".
    - nostrademons 19y ago
      That happens when you try to run a Java app that was compiled with a newer compiler on an older VM. Most likely, the demo was built with Java 1.6 and you've still got 1.5. It's working on my browser. ...It's also slow to load and incredibly clunky. Why, Swing, did you have to reimplement every native widget so that none of them look the way we expect? I think Paul's "no Java applets" remark is on the money here.

daltonlp 19y ago

SWFUpload has worked awesomely for me: http://labb.dev.mammon.se/swfupload/ http://labb.dev.mammon.se/swfupload/

benhoyt 19y ago
That's pretty sweet! Good link -- I'll keep that in mind. (Though it doesn't do two of the things Paul was after: open a better file-select dialog, and do local data processing on the file before sending it.)
kingnothing 19y ago
Doesn't work in Opera on Ubuntu.

sbraford 19y ago

I don't get it -- Flash is already ubiquitous. Why does Paul want to boil the ocean? Even multi-file Flash uploaders with progress bar indicators are free and plentiful. My favorite: http://www.element-it.com/MultiPowUpload.aspx http://www.element-it.com/MultiPowUpload.aspx The only trick is getting Flash to pass session variables or some other way for the server to authenticate the user.