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Title is a little misleading, as attested to by several comments here. It's more a standardization (which, yes, does include "banning" the non-standard labels)

Title is a little misleading, as attested to by several comments here. It's more a standardization (which, yes, does include "banning" the non-standard labels) Relevant quote: > The law is set to take effect in July 2026, establishing a new standard for food labeling in California. It will require the use of “Best if Used By” label to signal peak quality and “Use By” label for product safety, an approach recommended by federal agencies

s1artibartfast 2y ago
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- squigz 2y ago
  Why does that framing confuse you?
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    I think it is confusing because I dont think that replacing the texts "enjoy by" with “BEST if Used by” will have the impact the California legislature says it will of 20% reduction in statewide food waste. It is confusing because I'm not sure if they are just boldly lying and actually that delusional.
- ttyprintk 2y ago
  No, the confusion is over the price of an item beyond its magical date. The pipelines producing milk and eggs perpetually need shelf space tomorrow, so the date is an ordinal signal. These rules are the same independent of the political persuasion of the farmers and grocers involved.
  - candiddevmike 2y ago
    Do you think this will lead to some kind of price decay scheme based on freshness? I occasionally see something like but nothing regular enough to plan shopping around buying almost expired products.
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      Our local shop has a section for goods expiring that day, which are cheaper. It's good.
    - Leherenn 2y ago
      It happens here in Switzerland. There's even an app where you reserve a "mystery" bag, you go right before the shop closes (which is usually 6 or 7pm) and you get a random assortment based on what's about to expire at a massively reduced price (like 1/3). Of course you cannot really rely on it if you have a specific meal in mind, but it's pretty good as an add-on, and it makes you try things you wouldn't usually buy.
      - s1artibartfast 2y ago
        That already exists in California, and is entirely unrelated the new legislation. The law is simply that you cant use various labels like "enjoy by" or "Best by" and instead, all non-safety dates must use the exact words "best if used by". 82001. (a) On and after January 1, 2025, a food manufacturer, processor, or retailer responsible for the labeling of food items for human consumption that chooses, or is otherwise required by law, to display a date label to communicate a quality or safety date on a food item manufactured on or after January 1, 2025, shall use one of the following uniform terms on the date label: (1) “BEST if Used by” or “BEST if Used or Frozen by” to indicate the quality date of the food item. (2) “USE by” or “USE by or Freeze by” to indicate the safety date of the food item. (3) “BB” to indicate the quality date of the food item if the food item is too small to include the uniform term described in paragraph (1). (4) “UB” to indicate the safety date of the food item if the food item is too small to include the uniform term described in paragraph (2). https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671 https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671
      - m463 2y ago
        I think there's an app in the US like that, too good to go.
    - ttyprintk 2y ago
      I think the traditional way shoppers would approach that is haggling —- if obedience to price tags is a newer phenomenon.
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    This law makes no change to which products must be labeled. It bans consumer readable "sell by" dates voluntarily used for inventory management. The only consumer readable dates allowed now are 1) "BEST if Used by” and 2) “USE by” for safety expiry. Edit: For the skeptics, read the law https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671 https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671

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squigz 2y ago
Why does that framing confuse you?
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  I think it is confusing because I dont think that replacing the texts "enjoy by" with “BEST if Used by” will have the impact the California legislature says it will of 20% reduction in statewide food waste. It is confusing because I'm not sure if they are just boldly lying and actually that delusional.
ttyprintk 2y ago
No, the confusion is over the price of an item beyond its magical date. The pipelines producing milk and eggs perpetually need shelf space tomorrow, so the date is an ordinal signal. These rules are the same independent of the political persuasion of the farmers and grocers involved.
- candiddevmike 2y ago
  Do you think this will lead to some kind of price decay scheme based on freshness? I occasionally see something like but nothing regular enough to plan shopping around buying almost expired products.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    Our local shop has a section for goods expiring that day, which are cheaper. It's good.
  - Leherenn 2y ago
    It happens here in Switzerland. There's even an app where you reserve a "mystery" bag, you go right before the shop closes (which is usually 6 or 7pm) and you get a random assortment based on what's about to expire at a massively reduced price (like 1/3). Of course you cannot really rely on it if you have a specific meal in mind, but it's pretty good as an add-on, and it makes you try things you wouldn't usually buy.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      That already exists in California, and is entirely unrelated the new legislation. The law is simply that you cant use various labels like "enjoy by" or "Best by" and instead, all non-safety dates must use the exact words "best if used by". 82001. (a) On and after January 1, 2025, a food manufacturer, processor, or retailer responsible for the labeling of food items for human consumption that chooses, or is otherwise required by law, to display a date label to communicate a quality or safety date on a food item manufactured on or after January 1, 2025, shall use one of the following uniform terms on the date label: (1) “BEST if Used by” or “BEST if Used or Frozen by” to indicate the quality date of the food item. (2) “USE by” or “USE by or Freeze by” to indicate the safety date of the food item. (3) “BB” to indicate the quality date of the food item if the food item is too small to include the uniform term described in paragraph (1). (4) “UB” to indicate the safety date of the food item if the food item is too small to include the uniform term described in paragraph (2). https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671 https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671
    - m463 2y ago
      I think there's an app in the US like that, too good to go.
  - ttyprintk 2y ago
    I think the traditional way shoppers would approach that is haggling —- if obedience to price tags is a newer phenomenon.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  This law makes no change to which products must be labeled. It bans consumer readable "sell by" dates voluntarily used for inventory management. The only consumer readable dates allowed now are 1) "BEST if Used by” and 2) “USE by” for safety expiry. Edit: For the skeptics, read the law https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671 https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB660/id/2837671