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Plenty of people who took the offer were on the fence already or looking to switch companies anyway, it was a good motivator for them.

fhfhfhjfnfnfmf 2y ago
Are you an employee? I’ve seen a bunch of comments like this on various forums. Is Matt telling his employees to spin the folks who left? Edit: it seems like he is. Wow.
- johnbellone 2y ago
  Of course he is.
- cromka 2y ago
  What’s the problem here? This is a common scenario in every company out there. I was in the same exact position myself 3 years ago.
  - fhfhfhjfnfnfmf 2y ago
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  - John_Cena 2y ago
    When it happened to me I was surprised to see what was being commented. There was nothing about the actual business decisions that led to the exodus, it was just vitriol about anyone who left was an imposter and now finally the real engineers can get to work.
    - DowagerDave 2y ago
      Well, IMO you were a big part of why the WWE was successful, and they're declining while your career in movies is really taking off, so your personal success should provide you with a lot of validation.
- senadir 2y ago
  Yes I am. I’m not spinning anyone. Several of my friends took the offer, they were unhappy, it was great timing. I support them 100%.
  - fhfhfhjfnfnfmf 2y ago
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    - debo_ 2y ago
      This is really not appropriate. Edit: thanks for removing the attacking language that was previously at the end of your post.
    - senadir 2y ago
      Any company has low perfomers, if you denay that, then I can't really engage with you here. Low performances usually go on a performance improvement plan (which almost half who enter it graduate it successfully to stay). People on PIP didn't want to take their chances and just took the offer. This does not mean all 150+ people were low performers, some of the brightest, most intelligent engineers and designers left, and I do miss them greatly and hold so much respect for them. Many of them were dear friends of mine. For your attacking comment, I'm engaging my actual profile and name, and you're engaging with a throwaway account that's less than a day old, so I don't know who's more spinless.
    - John_Cena 2y ago
      When I got laid off from DISH that kind of talk was all I saw on anon forums that had discussions about it. That was 5 years ago and last I heard they were being bought out. It is much easier for humans to rationalize hardships around them as something they can control. Nobody can control a monkey suit's decisions, specifically when they exhibit the emperors' new clothes type of issues. This is before you get into any of the usual resentment relationships that occur when companies restructure around their own self interest. Try not to let the anon vitriol get to you. I understand that's quite a ridiculous thing to ask someone when their job/career is on the line.
    - 2y ago
- DowagerDave 2y ago
  if you've worked at the management level you've seen that GOOD attrition for a software company is maybe around 10% annually (we saw well above 25% coming out of Covid). There's always around this number leaving, looking to leave, or about to. If this flushed out 8.4% with very generous terms that seems low. We should watch the next 6-12 months to see if the expected level of departures continues, or there's a respite.

fhfhfhjfnfnfmf 2y ago

Are you an employee? I’ve seen a bunch of comments like this on various forums. Is Matt telling his employees to spin the folks who left? Edit: it seems like he is. Wow.

johnbellone 2y ago
Of course he is.
cromka 2y ago
What’s the problem here? This is a common scenario in every company out there. I was in the same exact position myself 3 years ago.
- fhfhfhjfnfnfmf 2y ago
  [flagged]
- John_Cena 2y ago
  When it happened to me I was surprised to see what was being commented. There was nothing about the actual business decisions that led to the exodus, it was just vitriol about anyone who left was an imposter and now finally the real engineers can get to work.
  - DowagerDave 2y ago
    Well, IMO you were a big part of why the WWE was successful, and they're declining while your career in movies is really taking off, so your personal success should provide you with a lot of validation.
senadir 2y ago
Yes I am. I’m not spinning anyone. Several of my friends took the offer, they were unhappy, it was great timing. I support them 100%.
- fhfhfhjfnfnfmf 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - debo_ 2y ago
    This is really not appropriate. Edit: thanks for removing the attacking language that was previously at the end of your post.
  - senadir 2y ago
    Any company has low perfomers, if you denay that, then I can't really engage with you here. Low performances usually go on a performance improvement plan (which almost half who enter it graduate it successfully to stay). People on PIP didn't want to take their chances and just took the offer. This does not mean all 150+ people were low performers, some of the brightest, most intelligent engineers and designers left, and I do miss them greatly and hold so much respect for them. Many of them were dear friends of mine. For your attacking comment, I'm engaging my actual profile and name, and you're engaging with a throwaway account that's less than a day old, so I don't know who's more spinless.
  - John_Cena 2y ago
    When I got laid off from DISH that kind of talk was all I saw on anon forums that had discussions about it. That was 5 years ago and last I heard they were being bought out. It is much easier for humans to rationalize hardships around them as something they can control. Nobody can control a monkey suit's decisions, specifically when they exhibit the emperors' new clothes type of issues. This is before you get into any of the usual resentment relationships that occur when companies restructure around their own self interest. Try not to let the anon vitriol get to you. I understand that's quite a ridiculous thing to ask someone when their job/career is on the line.
  - 2y ago
DowagerDave 2y ago
if you've worked at the management level you've seen that GOOD attrition for a software company is maybe around 10% annually (we saw well above 25% coming out of Covid). There's always around this number leaving, looking to leave, or about to. If this flushed out 8.4% with very generous terms that seems low. We should watch the next 6-12 months to see if the expected level of departures continues, or there's a respite.