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Given that it was this easy for an amateur, professional repair shops should be able to do this commercially right? So, the only thing that needs to be document

Given that it was this easy for an amateur, professional repair shops should be able to do this commercially right? So, the only thing that needs to be documented are the steps, and then this should qualify in a 'right to repair' scenario, no?

luma 2y ago
You and I share very different understandings of the word “easy”.
arghwhat 2y ago
Easy is a stretch, but sure - question is if you have a shop with this level of skill, expertise and documentation access near you.
alex_duf 2y ago
I assume that even if you're extremely good at it, it's half a day of work. So I'm not sure about the economics of it once you include labour, rent, machine expenses etc...
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  >So I'm not sure about the economics of it once you include labour, rent, machine expenses etc... Especially not at western levels of wages and commerical space rental costs. Such services might be economically feasible in places like Taiwan or China where these skills and equipment is abundant at every street corner, but if you have to pay someone in the west where these skills are specialized with high hourly wages, to do all that for your laptop, the cost could be higher than if you would flip your existing machine on the used market and add another couple of hundred bucks on top to buy a new laptop with the exact specs you need.
  - nxobject 2y ago
    Honestly, I think the biggest barrier in the West is just simply access to components and consumables, especially since places like the US are so geographically spaced out. It's much cheaper to do just-in-time inventory and walk across the neighborhood to buy (say) DRAM, BGA balls, and BGA stencils, than (in the West) to have to worry about ordering and stocking them yourself. (Trust me, I'd be learning how to do these repairs if the costs weren't almost doubled by shipping alone in the US.)
nxobject 2y ago
Sadly, this might be an Asian IT mall type of situation, where there’s a critical mass of easy access to equipment (especially consumables, specific “ghost shift” ICs, and custom tooling). At least that’s what the Chinese equipment market indicates to me - not just rework equipment, but very platform specific flash reprogrammers etc.

luma 2y ago

You and I share very different understandings of the word “easy”.

arghwhat 2y ago

Easy is a stretch, but sure - question is if you have a shop with this level of skill, expertise and documentation access near you.

alex_duf 2y ago

I assume that even if you're extremely good at it, it's half a day of work. So I'm not sure about the economics of it once you include labour, rent, machine expenses etc...

Rinzler89 2y ago
>So I'm not sure about the economics of it once you include labour, rent, machine expenses etc... Especially not at western levels of wages and commerical space rental costs. Such services might be economically feasible in places like Taiwan or China where these skills and equipment is abundant at every street corner, but if you have to pay someone in the west where these skills are specialized with high hourly wages, to do all that for your laptop, the cost could be higher than if you would flip your existing machine on the used market and add another couple of hundred bucks on top to buy a new laptop with the exact specs you need.
- nxobject 2y ago
  Honestly, I think the biggest barrier in the West is just simply access to components and consumables, especially since places like the US are so geographically spaced out. It's much cheaper to do just-in-time inventory and walk across the neighborhood to buy (say) DRAM, BGA balls, and BGA stencils, than (in the West) to have to worry about ordering and stocking them yourself. (Trust me, I'd be learning how to do these repairs if the costs weren't almost doubled by shipping alone in the US.)

nxobject 2y ago

Sadly, this might be an Asian IT mall type of situation, where there’s a critical mass of easy access to equipment (especially consumables, specific “ghost shift” ICs, and custom tooling). At least that’s what the Chinese equipment market indicates to me - not just rework equipment, but very platform specific flash reprogrammers etc.