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What about fluoridation? They still putting rat poison in the water?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> What about fluoridation? They still putting rat poison in the water? Fluoride naturally occurs in groundwater at levels in excess of not only what we add to water but to levels we consider unsafe [1]. Humans have been consuming water with some level of fluoride in it for thousands of years; animals, millions. PFAS, meanwhile, are entirely anthropogenic. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6572649/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6572649/
- tmn 2y ago
  This type of moving goal post rationalization always occurs on this topic. I can agree with you. And I don’t think added fluoride in my water is going to have any obvious health effect on me. But your points don’t justify why it’s still being added. What they do is rationalize why it’s not going to have any obvious health effects
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    I’m arguing less for or against fluoride in drinking water than pointing out it’s irrelevant whataboutism (literally) in a discussion about PFAS.
- TheAceOfHearts 2y ago
  The key issue with water fluoridation is that you can't control the dose. There's not really a strong consensus among countries whether it's optimal to add fluoride to drinking water, otherwise it would probably be the default choice everywhere. But we have better modern interventions that are just as effective: school-based dental care!
- Ferret7446 2y ago
  That's a poor argument. There are many things that can occur naturally in groundwater that you don't want to be drinking.
llamaimperative 2y ago
Yes because, like the available science says that PFAS are dangerous, the available science says that fluoride is not (at the levels its used). Hope that helps!
o11c 2y ago
I like to give analogies to those who think fluoridation is dangerous. Why do you drink water at all? Don't you know they make nuclear bombs out of hydrogen? Why are you willing to consume nuclear fuel?
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yencabulator 2y ago
Meanwhile, every US dentist I see is amazed at my teeth (middle-aged with no cavities) and asks if they use fluoride where I'm from (yes they do).

> What about fluoridation? They still putting rat poison in the water? Fluoride naturally occurs in groundwater at levels in excess of not only what we add to water but to levels we consider unsafe [1]. Humans have been consuming water with some level of fluoride in it for thousands of years; animals, millions. PFAS, meanwhile, are entirely anthropogenic. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6572649/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6572649/

tmn 2y ago
This type of moving goal post rationalization always occurs on this topic. I can agree with you. And I don’t think added fluoride in my water is going to have any obvious health effect on me. But your points don’t justify why it’s still being added. What they do is rationalize why it’s not going to have any obvious health effects
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  I’m arguing less for or against fluoride in drinking water than pointing out it’s irrelevant whataboutism (literally) in a discussion about PFAS.
TheAceOfHearts 2y ago
The key issue with water fluoridation is that you can't control the dose. There's not really a strong consensus among countries whether it's optimal to add fluoride to drinking water, otherwise it would probably be the default choice everywhere. But we have better modern interventions that are just as effective: school-based dental care!
Ferret7446 2y ago
That's a poor argument. There are many things that can occur naturally in groundwater that you don't want to be drinking.

llamaimperative 2y ago

Yes because, like the available science says that PFAS are dangerous, the available science says that fluoride is not (at the levels its used). Hope that helps!

o11c 2y ago

I like to give analogies to those who think fluoridation is dangerous. Why do you drink water at all? Don't you know they make nuclear bombs out of hydrogen? Why are you willing to consume nuclear fuel?

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yencabulator 2y ago

Meanwhile, every US dentist I see is amazed at my teeth (middle-aged with no cavities) and asks if they use fluoride where I'm from (yes they do).