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I don't really care if you think that someone has appropriated a term you think they don't deserve. I do care and support any movement that has the goal of deto

I don't really care if you think that someone has appropriated a term you think they don't deserve. I do care and support any movement that has the goal of detoxifying the social media scene.

devjab 2y ago
I’m on your boat, but I don’t think there is any reason to oversell yourself as the pioneer of the social web with statements which are blatantly false. If anything that will only hinder the mission of what you’re trying to achieve. To me it’s so unnecessary to sell the project as being run by the inventors of the social web, when the mission to decentralise control over social networks is brilliant on its own. I still don’t think any elected officials in Denmark should be on social networks where they don’t control the policies. I don’t agree with some of the outrageous stuff some of our less professional right wing politicians post on social media which gets them banned, but the very fact that a foreign tech company can chose to ban elected officials is just wrong. It would be much better if our Government ran something like a fediverse instance where they would control it and still reach the wider social network. I frankly think any news organisation should run their own server instances as well. That is a good mission. I’ll support anyone who works for it, but I also think it’s stupid to over present yourself with false claims.
yard2010 2y ago
Detoxifying social media is like detoxifying cyanide IMHO. You end up with nothing of real use.
- eesmith 2y ago
  I like almonds. The domestication process has removed nearly all of the cyanide from wild bitter almonds. Let's domesticate social media.
  - nativeit 2y ago
    Mmmm…mealy, bland, and incredibly resource intensive social media.
    - eesmith 2y ago
      I enjoyed that lovely quip. Thank you!
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boffinAudio 2y ago
>detoxifying the social media Technology cannot detoxify social media. Only ethics can, and we humans have very little in the way of tools to maintain a solid basis of ethics, besides ourselves.
- manuelmoreale 2y ago
  Thank you. I keep telling people the same thing over and over again. It’s a human problem not a technological one.
apitman 2y ago
My observation is that this move has increased the amount of toxicity in social media. There's plenty of room for ActivityPub and atproto to work together to decentralize things. Instead, this has generated a lot of infighting. Nothing wrong with starting a foundation, but recognize potential friends from foes. I suppose it's possible that they invited atproto to the table and they declined, but based on the way Even has been talking lately I highly doubt that.

I don't really care if you think that someone has appropriated a term you think they don't deserve. I do care and support any movement that has the goal of detoxifying the social media scene.

devjab 2y ago

I’m on your boat, but I don’t think there is any reason to oversell yourself as the pioneer of the social web with statements which are blatantly false. If anything that will only hinder the mission of what you’re trying to achieve. To me it’s so unnecessary to sell the project as being run by the inventors of the social web, when the mission to decentralise control over social networks is brilliant on its own. I still don’t think any elected officials in Denmark should be on social networks where they don’t control the policies. I don’t agree with some of the outrageous stuff some of our less professional right wing politicians post on social media which gets them banned, but the very fact that a foreign tech company can chose to ban elected officials is just wrong. It would be much better if our Government ran something like a fediverse instance where they would control it and still reach the wider social network. I frankly think any news organisation should run their own server instances as well. That is a good mission. I’ll support anyone who works for it, but I also think it’s stupid to over present yourself with false claims.

yard2010 2y ago

Detoxifying social media is like detoxifying cyanide IMHO. You end up with nothing of real use.

eesmith 2y ago
I like almonds. The domestication process has removed nearly all of the cyanide from wild bitter almonds. Let's domesticate social media.
- nativeit 2y ago
  Mmmm…mealy, bland, and incredibly resource intensive social media.
  - eesmith 2y ago
    I enjoyed that lovely quip. Thank you!
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boffinAudio 2y ago

>detoxifying the social media Technology cannot detoxify social media. Only ethics can, and we humans have very little in the way of tools to maintain a solid basis of ethics, besides ourselves.

manuelmoreale 2y ago
Thank you. I keep telling people the same thing over and over again. It’s a human problem not a technological one.

apitman 2y ago

My observation is that this move has increased the amount of toxicity in social media. There's plenty of room for ActivityPub and atproto to work together to decentralize things. Instead, this has generated a lot of infighting. Nothing wrong with starting a foundation, but recognize potential friends from foes. I suppose it's possible that they invited atproto to the table and they declined, but based on the way Even has been talking lately I highly doubt that.