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When I go to replace wear items such as the battery the insides of my Apple products look like goopy garbage because of all the adhesive I have to melt and scra

When I go to replace wear items such as the battery the insides of my Apple products look like goopy garbage because of all the adhesive I have to melt and scrape through. How is that considered “gorgeous”?

judge2020 2y ago
Eventually people wanted to be able to use it in somewhat moderate rain or want it to survive being accidentally dropped in the pool.
- callalex 2y ago
  What about the dozens (at this point hundreds) of phone models that are both rainproof and have a replaceable battery without melting and scraping? They exist in real, observed reality. What about the last 15 years of MacBook models that never claimed to be waterproof but still require heat guns and risk of catastrophic immolation to extend their life beyond 3-5 years? But for some reason the internals of an iPhone 16 are still “gorgeous”…and merit a stage appearance and endorsement from Mother Earth herself!
  - bubaumba 2y ago
    > What about the dozens (at this point hundreds) of phone models that are both rainproof and have a replaceable battery If that's what you are looking for just get one. It may come even with spyware preinstalled. Then try it underwater, should be fine if it's in specs, right? I just switched from Android for security primarily. The rest is a bonus. The problem is smartphone becomes a single point of failure. If it gets stolen I can't even work without authentication apps.
    - throwaway81523 2y ago
      Sealing electrical stuff from water is literally 19th century tech. Plenty of underwater flashlights exist even today. If they just lose the obsession with thinness in phones, almost every other problem becomes trivial to solve. Instead they make the ultra thin, breakable phone, and then users put it in a protective case which eliminates the thinness anyway.
      - argsnd 2y ago
        Thin phones are good. This is a thing you carry around in your pocket all day, you’ll notice almost every millilitre thicker and gram heavier it gets.
        j_maffe 2y ago
        But don't people use phone cases anyway to protect these fragile devices? what's the point then?
        meindnoch 2y ago
        X mm phone + Y mm case < (X + 1) mm phone + Y mm case
        j_maffe 2y ago
        X+Y+1~=X+Y when X,Y>>1. Does it really matter if you have a 16mm or 17mm phone + case?
        throwaway81523 2y ago
        Thicker, stronger phone = not need protective case.
        meindnoch 2y ago
        Cases protect against scratches and dents, not breaking the phone in half...
        bubaumba 2y ago
        They are not that fragile if you don't drop hard. Never used case for A50, it still looks almost new after years of active use. But for iphone I got a thin case, to protect popping out cameras and to make it look cool. Main concern is thieves if I travel somewhere, not the physical damage.
        elzbardico 2y ago
    - RandomThoughts3 2y ago
      Your post doesn't make sense. A commenter complains that Apple uses a lot of adhesive inside their phones so they are not really a thing of beauty. Someone replies that it's because of water proofing. Another person points out that, no, actually plenty of companies make waterproof phones without using glue so Apple could. You tell them to go buy other another phone. How is it in any way related to beautiful design, waterproofing and glue use in manufacturing?
  - dacryn 2y ago
    in my experience from a few years ago: I commute by bicycle to shool (and in the meantime work) in a very rainy country. My entire childhood, I had to replace phones every few months jsut because they got soaked in the rain and I didn't close the protective case perfectly or whatever. Then I started to buy waterproof phones, and my life was noticeably better. those still die from water damage, just slower. Every time you drop the phone and the case pops off, the water protection gets a bit worse, and after a year or so, the rubber gets hard, especially in winter, and its no longer waterproof. I wouldn't dare to put it in actual water. Now I have had my smartphone for many years, and I had the previous one for many years. So yes please, glue it together, glue it shut, at least if you're serious about water damage and dust ingress
    - kjkjadksj 2y ago
      A ziplock bag would have solved your problems

judge2020 2y ago

Eventually people wanted to be able to use it in somewhat moderate rain or want it to survive being accidentally dropped in the pool.

callalex 2y ago
What about the dozens (at this point hundreds) of phone models that are both rainproof and have a replaceable battery without melting and scraping? They exist in real, observed reality. What about the last 15 years of MacBook models that never claimed to be waterproof but still require heat guns and risk of catastrophic immolation to extend their life beyond 3-5 years? But for some reason the internals of an iPhone 16 are still “gorgeous”…and merit a stage appearance and endorsement from Mother Earth herself!
- bubaumba 2y ago
  > What about the dozens (at this point hundreds) of phone models that are both rainproof and have a replaceable battery If that's what you are looking for just get one. It may come even with spyware preinstalled. Then try it underwater, should be fine if it's in specs, right? I just switched from Android for security primarily. The rest is a bonus. The problem is smartphone becomes a single point of failure. If it gets stolen I can't even work without authentication apps.
  - throwaway81523 2y ago
    Sealing electrical stuff from water is literally 19th century tech. Plenty of underwater flashlights exist even today. If they just lose the obsession with thinness in phones, almost every other problem becomes trivial to solve. Instead they make the ultra thin, breakable phone, and then users put it in a protective case which eliminates the thinness anyway.
    - argsnd 2y ago
      Thin phones are good. This is a thing you carry around in your pocket all day, you’ll notice almost every millilitre thicker and gram heavier it gets.
      - j_maffe 2y ago
        But don't people use phone cases anyway to protect these fragile devices? what's the point then?
        meindnoch 2y ago
        X mm phone + Y mm case < (X + 1) mm phone + Y mm case
        j_maffe 2y ago
        X+Y+1~=X+Y when X,Y>>1. Does it really matter if you have a 16mm or 17mm phone + case?
        throwaway81523 2y ago
        Thicker, stronger phone = not need protective case.
        meindnoch 2y ago
        Cases protect against scratches and dents, not breaking the phone in half...
        bubaumba 2y ago
        They are not that fragile if you don't drop hard. Never used case for A50, it still looks almost new after years of active use. But for iphone I got a thin case, to protect popping out cameras and to make it look cool. Main concern is thieves if I travel somewhere, not the physical damage.
        elzbardico 2y ago
  - RandomThoughts3 2y ago
    Your post doesn't make sense. A commenter complains that Apple uses a lot of adhesive inside their phones so they are not really a thing of beauty. Someone replies that it's because of water proofing. Another person points out that, no, actually plenty of companies make waterproof phones without using glue so Apple could. You tell them to go buy other another phone. How is it in any way related to beautiful design, waterproofing and glue use in manufacturing?
- dacryn 2y ago
  in my experience from a few years ago: I commute by bicycle to shool (and in the meantime work) in a very rainy country. My entire childhood, I had to replace phones every few months jsut because they got soaked in the rain and I didn't close the protective case perfectly or whatever. Then I started to buy waterproof phones, and my life was noticeably better. those still die from water damage, just slower. Every time you drop the phone and the case pops off, the water protection gets a bit worse, and after a year or so, the rubber gets hard, especially in winter, and its no longer waterproof. I wouldn't dare to put it in actual water. Now I have had my smartphone for many years, and I had the previous one for many years. So yes please, glue it together, glue it shut, at least if you're serious about water damage and dust ingress
  - kjkjadksj 2y ago
    A ziplock bag would have solved your problems