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Because there is a huge market for resume builders and career guidance where AI can play a role. Using LinkedIn you can measure success and network performance

by theiz 2y ago

Because there is a huge market for resume builders and career guidance where AI can play a role. Using LinkedIn you can measure success and network performance and correlate that to the resume and posted content.

cyanydeez 2y ago
I'm guessing the real money linked in wants is in the hiring and firing, B2B. Now, every resume gets answered and your first interaction with a company is a poorly scripted AI who goes from manic enthusiasm to depressingly rote in the actual job requirements and probably will still ghost you and continue the imbalance of application effort vs employer response. The converse will be true, but the price of AI will just make poor people have to suffer even more Just the long march of wealth inequality and it's time sucking capitalism.
- jongjong 2y ago
  This seems to imply that machines would ghost humans to save on token fees. I wouldn't rule it out.
- BobbyJo 2y ago
  > the imbalance of application effort vs employer response. A recent issue in the job application realm is AI application bots that will apply to 100's of jobs on your behalf, which is the opposite problem. Seems like both sides are racing to make applications as useless as possible as quickly as possible. If you don't have a network, good luck in the future.
  - vidarh 2y ago
    We're heading for the 1990's vision of agents negotiating on our behalf, except less exchange of reliable data and more attempts at bullshitting each other.
usefulcat 2y ago
I was going to say that it's the streetlight effect but this makes even more sense.
- startupsfail 2y ago
  LinkedIn, like GitHub and (to a degree) OpenAI are under Microsoft’s umbrella.
vidarh 2y ago
There's also real money in writing LinkedIn content that is believable enough for "influencers" to post. I'm currently contracting, and post on LinkedIn at least once a day, and I've added ~1k+ followers in the last month, but it takes effort. Meanwhile, those posts have gotten me work, and so if it was feasible for me to outsource it in a reputationally safe way, I'd consider it. For me the bar for "reputationally safe" is really high because my market (cynical tech CTO's etc. don't respond well to things that sounds like ChatGPT) and so I don't expect to any time soon, but for many others that bar is pretty low as long as it's good enough for LinkedIn's algorithm to give it impressions.
- isoprophlex 2y ago
  I hope you realize that if everyone can do "computational influencing", everyone will. A Nash Equilibrium of automated bullshit, it'll just make everything more miserable, programmatically.
  - antimemetics 2y ago
    I think if you read LinkedIn posts you get what you deserve
- kklisura 2y ago
  :insert Christoph Waltz meme: You're sheltering LinkedIn slop, are you not?
- soco 2y ago
  I don't think anybody said influencers don't put effort in it. The only argument is that the added value by influencers is zero, be it on Instagram or LinkedIn, so if AI can take that kind of job the net loss is also zero. Of course of course there's an audience for influencers, like there was an audience at Tupperware shows, but they'll be happy to move on to the next fad so again zero loss.
  - avidphantasm 2y ago
    Once again, AI will automate checkboxing tasks—-things that some people think some other people value so it has to be done even though basically no on values it so no one wants to do the soulless task.
bostik 2y ago
Anecdotally, I think a fair chunk of writing CVs (and to a smaller degree, cover letters) is already outsourced. Adding an AI to the mix will only make things worse. I have seen a number of CVs over the past few months that fall into two eye-rolling categories. First, those that have the same set of skills in the exact same order, and routinely sport identical expressions. Over time I've come to associate them with low-grade content farms. Second, a smaller set of exceptionally polished ones that feel unique and really want me to interview the candidate. These candidates will then utterly bomb in the interview, to the point where I'm often asking myself whose CV it was they had submitted. Signal-to-noise ratio is tending towards zero.
- itsoktocry 2y ago
  >Anecdotally, I think a fair chunk of writing CVs (and to a smaller degree, cover letters) is already outsourced. Adding an AI to the mix will only make things worse. This is why "I've submitted 1000 resumes in 3 weeks and can't get an interview!" posts on social media are rampant.

by theiz 2y ago

cyanydeez 2y ago

I'm guessing the real money linked in wants is in the hiring and firing, B2B. Now, every resume gets answered and your first interaction with a company is a poorly scripted AI who goes from manic enthusiasm to depressingly rote in the actual job requirements and probably will still ghost you and continue the imbalance of application effort vs employer response. The converse will be true, but the price of AI will just make poor people have to suffer even more Just the long march of wealth inequality and it's time sucking capitalism.

jongjong 2y ago
This seems to imply that machines would ghost humans to save on token fees. I wouldn't rule it out.
BobbyJo 2y ago
> the imbalance of application effort vs employer response. A recent issue in the job application realm is AI application bots that will apply to 100's of jobs on your behalf, which is the opposite problem. Seems like both sides are racing to make applications as useless as possible as quickly as possible. If you don't have a network, good luck in the future.
- vidarh 2y ago
  We're heading for the 1990's vision of agents negotiating on our behalf, except less exchange of reliable data and more attempts at bullshitting each other.

usefulcat 2y ago

I was going to say that it's the streetlight effect but this makes even more sense.

startupsfail 2y ago
LinkedIn, like GitHub and (to a degree) OpenAI are under Microsoft’s umbrella.

vidarh 2y ago

There's also real money in writing LinkedIn content that is believable enough for "influencers" to post. I'm currently contracting, and post on LinkedIn at least once a day, and I've added ~1k+ followers in the last month, but it takes effort. Meanwhile, those posts have gotten me work, and so if it was feasible for me to outsource it in a reputationally safe way, I'd consider it. For me the bar for "reputationally safe" is really high because my market (cynical tech CTO's etc. don't respond well to things that sounds like ChatGPT) and so I don't expect to any time soon, but for many others that bar is pretty low as long as it's good enough for LinkedIn's algorithm to give it impressions.

isoprophlex 2y ago
I hope you realize that if everyone can do "computational influencing", everyone will. A Nash Equilibrium of automated bullshit, it'll just make everything more miserable, programmatically.
- antimemetics 2y ago
  I think if you read LinkedIn posts you get what you deserve
kklisura 2y ago
:insert Christoph Waltz meme: You're sheltering LinkedIn slop, are you not?
soco 2y ago
I don't think anybody said influencers don't put effort in it. The only argument is that the added value by influencers is zero, be it on Instagram or LinkedIn, so if AI can take that kind of job the net loss is also zero. Of course of course there's an audience for influencers, like there was an audience at Tupperware shows, but they'll be happy to move on to the next fad so again zero loss.
- avidphantasm 2y ago
  Once again, AI will automate checkboxing tasks—-things that some people think some other people value so it has to be done even though basically no on values it so no one wants to do the soulless task.

bostik 2y ago

Anecdotally, I think a fair chunk of writing CVs (and to a smaller degree, cover letters) is already outsourced. Adding an AI to the mix will only make things worse. I have seen a number of CVs over the past few months that fall into two eye-rolling categories. First, those that have the same set of skills in the exact same order, and routinely sport identical expressions. Over time I've come to associate them with low-grade content farms. Second, a smaller set of exceptionally polished ones that feel unique and really want me to interview the candidate. These candidates will then utterly bomb in the interview, to the point where I'm often asking myself whose CV it was they had submitted. Signal-to-noise ratio is tending towards zero.

itsoktocry 2y ago
>Anecdotally, I think a fair chunk of writing CVs (and to a smaller degree, cover letters) is already outsourced. Adding an AI to the mix will only make things worse. This is why "I've submitted 1000 resumes in 3 weeks and can't get an interview!" posts on social media are rampant.