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> I think you underestimate the power of your government and the impact of economic sanctions. I think you don't understand how the scientific method works. V

> I think you underestimate the power of your government and the impact of economic sanctions. I think you don't understand how the scientific method works. Venezuela had sanctions removed, they still starved. North Korea trades directly with the massive economy of China, the people are still starving and poor. The problem is communism and socialism, not sanctions. Stop being a stooge for dictators.

derelicta 2y ago
I think you have been propagandized by criminals. I don't blame you, I was the same. Regarding starvation, it happened under capitalist, slavery-based and feudal regimes aswell. One recent example is how the very capitalistic UK engineered a terrible famine that nearly killed 200mio Indians. For most of the western world, Churchill was very much a saviour, but for Indians, he was a brutal dictator.
- brigadier132 2y ago
  I've personally experienced the horrors of communism so no propaganda was needed for me.
  - derelicta 2y ago
    Oh have you? Interesting. If you lived in a low-performing socialist country, I guess it's tough to blame you. But keep in mind that socialism, like any democratic experiment, is different based on the country's initial historic and material conditions. One can pin point at China, a high performing democratic experiment and say they are doing fairly well, "despite" being a socialist Republic. However I'm curious what you refer as "horrors" of communism.
    - brigadier132 2y ago
      I can't discuss anything further with you when you call China democratic. You are basically a flat earther.
    - blackhawkC17 2y ago
      > However I'm curious what you refer as "horrors" of communism. Mass starvation and murders to start.
      - derelicta 2y ago
        This is happening right now in Palestine and I'm pretty sure Israel is a capitalist entity. Oh but I forgot, when we do it, we are the good guys. My bad.
        blackhawkC17 2y ago
        Starvation due to war blockades, not because of lack of food; Gaza wasn’t starving before Hamas invaded. Unlike in communist countries where famine occurs because there’s literally not enough food to go around. No offense, but it seems you’re trolling with the way you bring up unrelated points.
        derelicta 2y ago
        "Hamas invaded" lmao, ofc its the locals who got to be invaders, not crackers from the western world. Also war blockades are illegal, but again, when the west does it, its fine. With such mentality, no wonders they hate us.
    - sfmz 2y ago
      Communism has more variables than central-planning vs market-economy: one-party, authoritarian, no private property, no political speech, nothing approaching civil rights, political executions... Kim Jong Un Executes Officials Over Deadly Floods in North Korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLLk90i-Ek&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLLk90i-Ek&t=2s
      - derelicta 2y ago
        Any news network that cites Radio Free Asia uncritically shouldn't be taken seriously, which is where the news come from. Next month there will be news how North Koreans are eating their own children with comically large spoons and y'all are gonna fall for it.

derelicta 2y ago

I think you have been propagandized by criminals. I don't blame you, I was the same. Regarding starvation, it happened under capitalist, slavery-based and feudal regimes aswell. One recent example is how the very capitalistic UK engineered a terrible famine that nearly killed 200mio Indians. For most of the western world, Churchill was very much a saviour, but for Indians, he was a brutal dictator.

brigadier132 2y ago
I've personally experienced the horrors of communism so no propaganda was needed for me.
- derelicta 2y ago
  Oh have you? Interesting. If you lived in a low-performing socialist country, I guess it's tough to blame you. But keep in mind that socialism, like any democratic experiment, is different based on the country's initial historic and material conditions. One can pin point at China, a high performing democratic experiment and say they are doing fairly well, "despite" being a socialist Republic. However I'm curious what you refer as "horrors" of communism.
  - brigadier132 2y ago
    I can't discuss anything further with you when you call China democratic. You are basically a flat earther.
  - blackhawkC17 2y ago
    > However I'm curious what you refer as "horrors" of communism. Mass starvation and murders to start.
    - derelicta 2y ago
      This is happening right now in Palestine and I'm pretty sure Israel is a capitalist entity. Oh but I forgot, when we do it, we are the good guys. My bad.
      - blackhawkC17 2y ago
        Starvation due to war blockades, not because of lack of food; Gaza wasn’t starving before Hamas invaded. Unlike in communist countries where famine occurs because there’s literally not enough food to go around. No offense, but it seems you’re trolling with the way you bring up unrelated points.
        derelicta 2y ago
        "Hamas invaded" lmao, ofc its the locals who got to be invaders, not crackers from the western world. Also war blockades are illegal, but again, when the west does it, its fine. With such mentality, no wonders they hate us.
  - sfmz 2y ago
    Communism has more variables than central-planning vs market-economy: one-party, authoritarian, no private property, no political speech, nothing approaching civil rights, political executions... Kim Jong Un Executes Officials Over Deadly Floods in North Korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLLk90i-Ek&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLLk90i-Ek&t=2s
    - derelicta 2y ago
      Any news network that cites Radio Free Asia uncritically shouldn't be taken seriously, which is where the news come from. Next month there will be news how North Koreans are eating their own children with comically large spoons and y'all are gonna fall for it.