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If you want the average consumer to weigh in, fine. Look at download/purchase statistics, canvass users or do focus groups. If you want qualified, passionate an
by nuaccnt 14y ago
If you want the average consumer to weigh in, fine. Look at download/purchase statistics, canvass users or do focus groups. If you want qualified, passionate and experienced programmers you're out of luck, those are mostly men. An overrepresentation (compared to the total number of candidates that would be good enough, of course some of them are women) it is bound to cost you something. Is having 50% (or whatever) women in open source related activity more important to you than having the best possible open source software?
- illumen 14y agoMore diversity in things like this does improve software. I learnt this at one of the fastest growing software companies in the world. Do men know best what women want? No. Get women involved, and there is a better result. If we don't begin to be inclusive, then Ubuntu will stay a closed mens club - and we will all be poorer for it.
- nuaccnt 14y agoI'd say what for-profit companies do is the best indicator we have of the value of gender balance vs. just-making-something-people-want [to buy]--there's an imbalance in those too. Apple, for example, has an all male executive team. Microsoft has one woman (hr). Google has a few women (pr, hr/lobbying and marketing). http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/ http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/ http://www.google.com/about/company/facts/management/ http://www.google.com/about/company/facts/management/ http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/exec/slt.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/exec/slt.aspx http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/programming-and-development/it-gender-gap-where-are-the-female-programmers/2386 http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/programming-and-development... I expect an objection that assumes for-profit businesses don't act rationally to maximize profit, I won't pursue that.
- EliRivers 14y ago"I expect an objection that assumes for-profit businesses don't act rationally to maximize profit, I won't pursue that." Why not? Sounds like a valid objection that undermines your entire argument.
- nuaccnt 14y agoIt would be, if it was provably or probably true. I don't think it is. But I wasn't (and I'm not) going to spend an hour arguing the point. Further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_order http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_order
- EliRivers 14y agoWell I do think it is, and I've provided as much argument as you, so I suppose we'll just have to accept that we'll never know.