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Then quit now. Go find another job. Why do you feel that way? Give me something substantial instead of this.

• p1esk 2y ago
  I will probably be forced to go into SWE management then, something I don’t enjoy. Why do I feel this way? Because I expect significant improvement from Orion, and I don’t think it will stop improving after that.
  • gwoolhurme 2y ago
    SWE management won’t be a thing either. Hopefully you can find another job.
    • p1esk 2y ago
      When SWE management’s no longer a thing I’m afraid there won’t be many professions left. By that time I really hope we will have some sort if UBI, so at least we won’t starve to death.
      • madamelic 2y ago
        Honestly... SWE management already is kind of already out-of-date and I say that as someone who is a SWE manager. Most software teams can pretty much run themselves and the only real use a SWE manager has imo is running interference because the rest of the company are morons and/or chaotic and being the gopher for things the team needs. I think a manager who isn't also participating in the work should be removed as they are a net-negative. If the rest of the company is calm and sane, in my opinion, you could have a team with senior+ ICs that take turns doing planning or doing a collaborative planning.
      • gtirloni 2y ago
        > When SWE management’s no longer a thing You just said developers will be gone in 2-3 years. There won't be any humans to manage. Did you mean you'll be a SWE manager of LLMs?
        • p1esk 2y ago
          Did you mean you'll be a SWE manager of LLMs? Yes, hopefully for a couple more years until such managers are themselves automated.
  • gtirloni 2y ago
    > Because I expect significant improvement from Orion Could you share the scientific basis for this expectation? Something other than pure hype from OpenAI would be good.
    • p1esk 2y ago
      Google “llm scaling laws”.