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9/11 in Realtime

61 points by clessg 2y ago

Krutonium 2y ago
I wish it wasn't MacOS 9 - A far more relevant UI for this would have been 9x or 2000. And a lot easier to use, too.
throwaway5889 2y ago
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sigmoid10 2y ago
The OS desktop-y simulation is a nice idea, but it makes the site unusable on mobile. Even the video player seems unnecessarily complicated. So unless you have a full screen available to you all day, you're gonna miss out on a lot.
- dudefeliciano 2y ago
  I don't think this is intended to be used on mobile. From their intro/disclaimer: a multimedia experiment for teachers, with the purpose of helping their students truly understand and absorb the events of September 11, 2001. Also, there were no smartphones on 9/11/2001, it helps with immersion :)
  - sigmoid10 2y ago
    I get that, but even in schools you'd need a monitor at this at all times. Overall it means you limit the audience to a fraction of its potential for what is essentially a gimmick that is not part of the story to be taught (and it's clearly intended to teach). You could easily simulate TV screens on a static page, which is also how most people would have experienced this. I doubt the fraction of people following the news on a Mac was significant back then.
    - Pawka 2y ago
      It also requires an internet connection. Which also limits the audience. Obviously this material is not available for everyone. But I'm glad the author created it in a form as it is.
      - robbiebyrd 2y ago
        Thanks Pawka, I appreciate the support! I am re-working the interface that the 911realtime.org uses to make it responsive and more modern; you can see it here: http://classicy.ing http://classicy.ing We're hoping that by the 25th anniversary, we can have a brand-new experience with more features and stability. If you, or any other engineers, teachers or computer-savvy volunteers would like to contribute, you can find me at http://keepinghistory.org http://keepinghistory.org
      - sigmoid10 2y ago
        That's like saying not everyone has eyes, so why should anyone create visual content. It totally misses the reality of those numbers.
  - robbiebyrd 2y ago
    You're absolutely right, there sure weren't any smartphones, or at least not the ones we think of today. I have a sort of unlisted version of the site that has been used in classrooms and museum exhibits: http://tv.911realtime.org http://tv.911realtime.org You can use the keyboard to navigate, and you will probably have to hit the spacebar on first load to get the player to play. L,S: Louder, Softer -,+: Change Channel M: Mute
- Dibby053 2y ago
  FWIW it works fine for me on mobile. The default layout is odd but it's possible to move and resize every window.
dang 2y ago
Related: 9/11 in Realtime - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37467077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37467077 - Sept 2023 (148 comments) September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28492719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28492719 - Sept 2021 (445 comments)
retrofuturism 2y ago
Quoting user nyx from the last time this was posted. >To fix the broken timestamp in the upper right, open your JS console and set timeZone.diff equal to your negative UTC offset. I'm in US Pacific Time, so I ran timeZone.diff = 8
- AngelsMaid 2y ago
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- robbiebyrd 2y ago
  I really, really do apologize for not fixing this yet.
frank_bb 2y ago
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9/11 in Realtime

61 points by clessg 2y ago

Krutonium 2y ago

I wish it wasn't MacOS 9 - A far more relevant UI for this would have been 9x or 2000. And a lot easier to use, too.

throwaway5889 2y ago

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sigmoid10 2y ago

The OS desktop-y simulation is a nice idea, but it makes the site unusable on mobile. Even the video player seems unnecessarily complicated. So unless you have a full screen available to you all day, you're gonna miss out on a lot.

dudefeliciano 2y ago
I don't think this is intended to be used on mobile. From their intro/disclaimer: a multimedia experiment for teachers, with the purpose of helping their students truly understand and absorb the events of September 11, 2001. Also, there were no smartphones on 9/11/2001, it helps with immersion :)
- sigmoid10 2y ago
  I get that, but even in schools you'd need a monitor at this at all times. Overall it means you limit the audience to a fraction of its potential for what is essentially a gimmick that is not part of the story to be taught (and it's clearly intended to teach). You could easily simulate TV screens on a static page, which is also how most people would have experienced this. I doubt the fraction of people following the news on a Mac was significant back then.
  - Pawka 2y ago
    It also requires an internet connection. Which also limits the audience. Obviously this material is not available for everyone. But I'm glad the author created it in a form as it is.
    - robbiebyrd 2y ago
      Thanks Pawka, I appreciate the support! I am re-working the interface that the 911realtime.org uses to make it responsive and more modern; you can see it here: http://classicy.ing http://classicy.ing We're hoping that by the 25th anniversary, we can have a brand-new experience with more features and stability. If you, or any other engineers, teachers or computer-savvy volunteers would like to contribute, you can find me at http://keepinghistory.org http://keepinghistory.org
    - sigmoid10 2y ago
      That's like saying not everyone has eyes, so why should anyone create visual content. It totally misses the reality of those numbers.
- robbiebyrd 2y ago
  You're absolutely right, there sure weren't any smartphones, or at least not the ones we think of today. I have a sort of unlisted version of the site that has been used in classrooms and museum exhibits: http://tv.911realtime.org http://tv.911realtime.org You can use the keyboard to navigate, and you will probably have to hit the spacebar on first load to get the player to play. L,S: Louder, Softer -,+: Change Channel M: Mute
Dibby053 2y ago
FWIW it works fine for me on mobile. The default layout is odd but it's possible to move and resize every window.

dang 2y ago

Related: 9/11 in Realtime - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37467077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37467077 - Sept 2023 (148 comments) September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28492719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28492719 - Sept 2021 (445 comments)

retrofuturism 2y ago

Quoting user nyx from the last time this was posted. >To fix the broken timestamp in the upper right, open your JS console and set timeZone.diff equal to your negative UTC offset. I'm in US Pacific Time, so I ran timeZone.diff = 8

AngelsMaid 2y ago
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robbiebyrd 2y ago
I really, really do apologize for not fixing this yet.

frank_bb 2y ago

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