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Looks interesting. Definitely nailing the old myspace aesthetic. I’d be more curious about active users versus registered users. Social networks are usually def

Looks interesting. Definitely nailing the old myspace aesthetic. I’d be more curious about active users versus registered users. Social networks are usually defined by activity. Unfortunately registered users probably contains a lot of bots and spammers.

Sparkyte 2y ago
When I saw this I was like ooh noes not myspace all over again. I feel this style may actually be a hinderance for adopting more users. People really want something more reactive like Discord. Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it. It is like comparing Slack to Teams. It will be a long time before anything catches immediately up to Slack or Discord in usability. Although I have a short list of things that would be QoL improvements that would make both them soooooo much better.
- BLKNSLVR 2y ago
  > hinderance for adopting more users Promotes a smaller, more tightly knit community. One person's X is another's Y.
  - keithalewis 2y ago
    [flagged]
- pavo-etc 2y ago
  Go use facebook then. This project seems fun.
- SubiculumCode 2y ago
  I think there is enough space for lots of styles.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  Discord always had a unique way of making me feel old I avoided it because when when a ding occurred there is no indication which channel had just donged, just left me confused as to what was happening
  - dangsux 2y ago
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  - courseofaction 2y ago
    Likewise - a notification history feature would help, the confusion really cripples the real-time experience.
    - RheingoldRiver 2y ago
      it has a notification history feature (at least on PC), it's just impossible to find and deleted messages disappear from it. Upper-right corner is your "inbox" which is totally worthless, and tabbed behind that is your notification history. I use it to find totally buried @Mods pings that I missed by thousands of messages and that's about it, it's not good. You can usually get most of your notifications with Ctrl+[T or K] and then going through the menu here, but for reasons I've yet to figure out sometimes DMs don't show up here even when they have unread messages. I think there is some incorrect logic that kicks in when you have a high number of unread channels and it can't show as many "previous channels" as it wants to. None of this is to defend Discord, I think their UI is bad and I've hated the way DMs function since day 1, and every single part of their app that relies on frecency (or doesn't but should) is abysmal (reaction autocomplete, the reaction pop-up menu, ctrl+T when you start typing something, the mention autocomplete behavior in any channel) But once you learn the poorly-documented navigation flow of ctrl+T and then using @, #, or * to filter users/channels/servers it gets easier to use. My current biggest complaint is lack of a "previous channel within this server" hotkey, "previous channel that you visited globally" exists but you can't restrict it within one server, and it makes navigating some of my servers an absolute nightmare.
    - Mashimo 2y ago
      It's there. Top right corner. "Inbox" then select mentions.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    It might be that someone sent a message and then deleted it.
- sqeaky 2y ago
  > Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it I dislike every single one of discord's design decisions, I think the software is garbage, and it is riddled with security problems. Their customer service is a nightmare, a hacker got one of my friends accounts and even though he'd paid up for some kind of Discord extra service for more than 2 years in advance they wouldn't refund him or give him his account back. The API is bad too. I use it purely because of the network effect. The people I want to communicate with use it, and the instant that changes if Discord isn't better then I'm out.
  - Kiro 2y ago
    While I disagree with the parent I personally think Discord is great. I've been on IRC for over 30 years and Discord is what I always imagined IRC 2.0 would be like.
    - stevage 2y ago
      Agreed. I like almost everything about discord. I just wish it did threaded replies in a more low key way.
    - multjoy 2y ago
      What, owned by a single company and monetised within an inch of it’s life?
      - emmet 2y ago
        I would have loved to pay monthly for IRC Nitro™ back in the day to use… uh, forbidden ascii art?
    - plufz 2y ago
      I feel sort of ehh the same but also the opposite. I feel with both slack and discord that they are a little better than IRC. But that I so easily can see those features being implemented in IRC and I feel really sad history didn’t go in that direction. What if IRC had became the standard in the same way email did. IRC was so great and I miss it. I know ppl still use it, but I don’t even think I have a client anymore. Learning to program as a kid in the 90s and getting that 28.8k modem with direct chat access to adults at Apple and later Sun/Java was amazing.
- FranzFerdiNaN 2y ago
  Ah yes, because real time chatting and a wall to post stuff on like early facebook surely are the exact same hting.
  - PROMISE_237 2y ago
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- creesch 2y ago
  > People really want something more reactive like Discord. Citation needed :) This feels like you are parroting either your own preference or something you have heard other people state as fact.
- pjc50 2y ago
  > Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good Discord as a text chat app is appalling. Whether on mobile, chromebook or desktop PC it's slow and janky to transition between channels. It is a measurably worse user experience than using IRC on a computer from twenty years ago with 1,000x less raw MIPS. Maybe it has some advantages for voice chat, but to me it's a lowest common denominator we use because of the people and despite the software.
  - Mashimo 2y ago
    What makes it appalling? You can press ctrl + K to jump to any channel from anywhere. Feels snappy.
    - pjc50 2y ago
      > Feels snappy. I wonder if this is just everyone else using it on massive gamer PCs and me using it on mobile/chromebook, but .. no. It it is not snappy. The process of fetching all the new messages and rendering them takes up to a second. I don't understand why people who insist on 60fps games are happy with a 1fps chat app, but I guess they don't have that experience.
      - Mashimo 2y ago
        Even on mobile switching channel feels snappy to me. The images can take a while if they are not cached yet.
      - sigseg1v 2y ago
        I'm using a $6000 gaming rig I put together and Discord is one of the worst performing apps I use, so I'm with you on this one.
        Mashimo 2y ago
        Could this be an internet connection issue? Do you even have slow performance when switching between two channels that are "loaded"?
- lelanthran 2y ago
  > People really want something more reactive like Discord. Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it. This probably comes as a surprise to Discord users, but it really is a niche social network. We're talking fractions of a percent of users compared to existing social networks. People don't really want something like Discord - the downsides by far outweigh any upside of "a closed-off private network of people", biggest one being lack of visibility and consistency.
  - twobitshifter 2y ago
    why would they want discord when they have emacs?
  - rcxdude 2y ago
    Lack of visibility is kind of the point for most of those users. Discord's a replacement for a group chat, not a facebook/myspace page. It was literally designed so those groups of 5-10 friends who play video games together online didn't need to faff about with a private forum, an IRC, and a voice chat server. The primary competition was Skype until Microsoft killed it. The last thing they want is randos butting in.
- cdelsolar 2y ago
  Hmm.. I love Discord?

Sparkyte 2y ago

When I saw this I was like ooh noes not myspace all over again. I feel this style may actually be a hinderance for adopting more users. People really want something more reactive like Discord. Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it. It is like comparing Slack to Teams. It will be a long time before anything catches immediately up to Slack or Discord in usability. Although I have a short list of things that would be QoL improvements that would make both them soooooo much better.

BLKNSLVR 2y ago
> hinderance for adopting more users Promotes a smaller, more tightly knit community. One person's X is another's Y.
- keithalewis 2y ago
  [flagged]
pavo-etc 2y ago
Go use facebook then. This project seems fun.
SubiculumCode 2y ago
I think there is enough space for lots of styles.
jazzyjackson 2y ago
Discord always had a unique way of making me feel old I avoided it because when when a ding occurred there is no indication which channel had just donged, just left me confused as to what was happening
- dangsux 2y ago
  [dead]
- courseofaction 2y ago
  Likewise - a notification history feature would help, the confusion really cripples the real-time experience.
  - RheingoldRiver 2y ago
    it has a notification history feature (at least on PC), it's just impossible to find and deleted messages disappear from it. Upper-right corner is your "inbox" which is totally worthless, and tabbed behind that is your notification history. I use it to find totally buried @Mods pings that I missed by thousands of messages and that's about it, it's not good. You can usually get most of your notifications with Ctrl+[T or K] and then going through the menu here, but for reasons I've yet to figure out sometimes DMs don't show up here even when they have unread messages. I think there is some incorrect logic that kicks in when you have a high number of unread channels and it can't show as many "previous channels" as it wants to. None of this is to defend Discord, I think their UI is bad and I've hated the way DMs function since day 1, and every single part of their app that relies on frecency (or doesn't but should) is abysmal (reaction autocomplete, the reaction pop-up menu, ctrl+T when you start typing something, the mention autocomplete behavior in any channel) But once you learn the poorly-documented navigation flow of ctrl+T and then using @, #, or * to filter users/channels/servers it gets easier to use. My current biggest complaint is lack of a "previous channel within this server" hotkey, "previous channel that you visited globally" exists but you can't restrict it within one server, and it makes navigating some of my servers an absolute nightmare.
  - Mashimo 2y ago
    It's there. Top right corner. "Inbox" then select mentions.
- saagarjha 2y ago
  It might be that someone sent a message and then deleted it.
sqeaky 2y ago
> Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it I dislike every single one of discord's design decisions, I think the software is garbage, and it is riddled with security problems. Their customer service is a nightmare, a hacker got one of my friends accounts and even though he'd paid up for some kind of Discord extra service for more than 2 years in advance they wouldn't refund him or give him his account back. The API is bad too. I use it purely because of the network effect. The people I want to communicate with use it, and the instant that changes if Discord isn't better then I'm out.
- Kiro 2y ago
  While I disagree with the parent I personally think Discord is great. I've been on IRC for over 30 years and Discord is what I always imagined IRC 2.0 would be like.
  - stevage 2y ago
    Agreed. I like almost everything about discord. I just wish it did threaded replies in a more low key way.
  - multjoy 2y ago
    What, owned by a single company and monetised within an inch of it’s life?
    - emmet 2y ago
      I would have loved to pay monthly for IRC Nitro™ back in the day to use… uh, forbidden ascii art?
  - plufz 2y ago
    I feel sort of ehh the same but also the opposite. I feel with both slack and discord that they are a little better than IRC. But that I so easily can see those features being implemented in IRC and I feel really sad history didn’t go in that direction. What if IRC had became the standard in the same way email did. IRC was so great and I miss it. I know ppl still use it, but I don’t even think I have a client anymore. Learning to program as a kid in the 90s and getting that 28.8k modem with direct chat access to adults at Apple and later Sun/Java was amazing.
FranzFerdiNaN 2y ago
Ah yes, because real time chatting and a wall to post stuff on like early facebook surely are the exact same hting.
- PROMISE_237 2y ago
  [dead]
creesch 2y ago
> People really want something more reactive like Discord. Citation needed :) This feels like you are parroting either your own preference or something you have heard other people state as fact.
pjc50 2y ago
> Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good Discord as a text chat app is appalling. Whether on mobile, chromebook or desktop PC it's slow and janky to transition between channels. It is a measurably worse user experience than using IRC on a computer from twenty years ago with 1,000x less raw MIPS. Maybe it has some advantages for voice chat, but to me it's a lowest common denominator we use because of the people and despite the software.
- Mashimo 2y ago
  What makes it appalling? You can press ctrl + K to jump to any channel from anywhere. Feels snappy.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    > Feels snappy. I wonder if this is just everyone else using it on massive gamer PCs and me using it on mobile/chromebook, but .. no. It it is not snappy. The process of fetching all the new messages and rendering them takes up to a second. I don't understand why people who insist on 60fps games are happy with a 1fps chat app, but I guess they don't have that experience.
    - Mashimo 2y ago
      Even on mobile switching channel feels snappy to me. The images can take a while if they are not cached yet.
    - sigseg1v 2y ago
      I'm using a $6000 gaming rig I put together and Discord is one of the worst performing apps I use, so I'm with you on this one.
      - Mashimo 2y ago
        Could this be an internet connection issue? Do you even have slow performance when switching between two channels that are "loaded"?
lelanthran 2y ago
> People really want something more reactive like Discord. Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it. This probably comes as a surprise to Discord users, but it really is a niche social network. We're talking fractions of a percent of users compared to existing social networks. People don't really want something like Discord - the downsides by far outweigh any upside of "a closed-off private network of people", biggest one being lack of visibility and consistency.
- twobitshifter 2y ago
  why would they want discord when they have emacs?
- rcxdude 2y ago
  Lack of visibility is kind of the point for most of those users. Discord's a replacement for a group chat, not a facebook/myspace page. It was literally designed so those groups of 5-10 friends who play video games together online didn't need to faff about with a private forum, an IRC, and a voice chat server. The primary competition was Skype until Microsoft killed it. The last thing they want is randos butting in.
cdelsolar 2y ago
Hmm.. I love Discord?