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Try posting something critical of the cult on r/conservative. There’s nothing uniquely leftist about censorship.

yarg 2y ago
I can't; I got permabanned from the site for hate speech. What did I say? That it's unfair for men to compete in women's sports and that TRAs use bad faith tactics like deplatforming as a means to silence their critics and avoid debate. The weaponisation of censorship is predominantly a far left tactic.
- bb88 2y ago
  > The weaponisation of censorship is predominantly a far left tactic. Incorrect. It's an authoritarian tactic, which can either be left or right. On the right today is Idaho with their new book banning law prohibiting minors from accessing books with LGBTQ+ themes (regardless of whether there was any sex or not). On the left, you have Tipper Gore which was famous for advocating for the sticker placed on CD's to alert people of potentially terrible lyrics.
  - yarg 2y ago
    I'm sorry, do you really need to be so damned pedantic? Today - in the present, given the relative levels of influence of the different authoritarian groups, it is predominantly the far left that is engaged in the weaponisation of censorship. I can't take the children's library arguments seriously any more. Right now there are books in school libraries that are too obscene to be read from in council meetings.
    - bb88 2y ago
      > do you really need to be so damned pedantic? This is HN. Pedantry is a badge of honor. /s Seriously though the facts aren't in your favor. I call BS on your primary thesis.
  - Izkata 2y ago
    > On the right today is Idaho with their new book banning law prohibiting minors from accessing books with LGBTQ+ themes (regardless of whether there was any sex or not). This is misleading. It's against anything pornographic being made accessible in schools / to people under 18 years old, LGBT or otherwise. "Homosexuality" is mentioned only once: > 3. "Sexual conduct" means any act of masturbation, homosexuality, sexual intercourse, or physical contact with a person's clothed or unclothed genitals, pubic area, buttocks or, if such person be a female, the breast. In a section that's 11 points long. Besides which, this whole section already existed, it was just amended recently and this part I quoted wasn't changed.
    - bb88 2y ago
      There is nothing that in the law that allows the libraries to defend whether a book is harmful to minors once the challenge is made. So any challenged books have to go into the adults-only section. 26% of books challenged in 2023 had no sexual content. Since the library has their hands tied, those books must go into the adults only section. Including the books on Rosa Parks. https://idaholibraries.wildapricot.org/resources/Documents/Copy%20of%20titlesChallengedID2023.xlsx https://idaholibraries.wildapricot.org/resources/Documents/C...
      - hollerith 2y ago
        I see you are not even trying to defend your previous assertion that Idaho is "prohibiting minors from accessing books with LGBTQ+ themes (regardless of whether there was any sex or not)". Instead you have sent a couple of new soldiers into the fight.

yarg 2y ago

I can't; I got permabanned from the site for hate speech. What did I say? That it's unfair for men to compete in women's sports and that TRAs use bad faith tactics like deplatforming as a means to silence their critics and avoid debate. The weaponisation of censorship is predominantly a far left tactic.

bb88 2y ago
> The weaponisation of censorship is predominantly a far left tactic. Incorrect. It's an authoritarian tactic, which can either be left or right. On the right today is Idaho with their new book banning law prohibiting minors from accessing books with LGBTQ+ themes (regardless of whether there was any sex or not). On the left, you have Tipper Gore which was famous for advocating for the sticker placed on CD's to alert people of potentially terrible lyrics.
- yarg 2y ago
  I'm sorry, do you really need to be so damned pedantic? Today - in the present, given the relative levels of influence of the different authoritarian groups, it is predominantly the far left that is engaged in the weaponisation of censorship. I can't take the children's library arguments seriously any more. Right now there are books in school libraries that are too obscene to be read from in council meetings.
  - bb88 2y ago
    > do you really need to be so damned pedantic? This is HN. Pedantry is a badge of honor. /s Seriously though the facts aren't in your favor. I call BS on your primary thesis.
- Izkata 2y ago
  > On the right today is Idaho with their new book banning law prohibiting minors from accessing books with LGBTQ+ themes (regardless of whether there was any sex or not). This is misleading. It's against anything pornographic being made accessible in schools / to people under 18 years old, LGBT or otherwise. "Homosexuality" is mentioned only once: > 3. "Sexual conduct" means any act of masturbation, homosexuality, sexual intercourse, or physical contact with a person's clothed or unclothed genitals, pubic area, buttocks or, if such person be a female, the breast. In a section that's 11 points long. Besides which, this whole section already existed, it was just amended recently and this part I quoted wasn't changed.
  - bb88 2y ago
    There is nothing that in the law that allows the libraries to defend whether a book is harmful to minors once the challenge is made. So any challenged books have to go into the adults-only section. 26% of books challenged in 2023 had no sexual content. Since the library has their hands tied, those books must go into the adults only section. Including the books on Rosa Parks. https://idaholibraries.wildapricot.org/resources/Documents/Copy%20of%20titlesChallengedID2023.xlsx https://idaholibraries.wildapricot.org/resources/Documents/C...
    - hollerith 2y ago
      I see you are not even trying to defend your previous assertion that Idaho is "prohibiting minors from accessing books with LGBTQ+ themes (regardless of whether there was any sex or not)". Instead you have sent a couple of new soldiers into the fight.