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Apart from it admittedly seeming out of place, what is the problem with this comment? Any ideology has the potential to become too oppressive and thought-ending

Apart from it admittedly seeming out of place, what is the problem with this comment? Any ideology has the potential to become too oppressive and thought-ending and there are definitely examples of the prevailing culture going this way, especially in universities and corporate culture. I'm no Marxist, but 'wokeism' clearly distracts people from class, instead focusing on gender, race and safety, and that's why it has been embraced by HR departments everywhere; it just doesn't threaten the c-suite and shareholders like 'traditional' class divide rhetoric did. And with that last line are you implying you want his thoughts policed? ... to subdue his rebellious spirit? This will surely backfire.

teg4n_ 2y ago
“wokeism” isn’t a defined thing, that’s why it’s off putting, it’s just a boogeyman pushed by conservative politicians and media. Even when you ask what they mean by it it ends up being applied to basically anything they don’t like.
- Fredkin 2y ago
  To most it's a blunt shorthand for radical progressivism to the point of an obsessive panic about who's the biggest victim and the biggest victimizer. It typically points to somebody who holds an ensemble of ideas surrounding race, gender, diversity, feminism, safety, sometimes mental health, disability, obesity etc with particular emphasis on performative acts of policing the language people use to refer to groups of people. The terms 'whiteness', 'white privilege', 'diversity', 'social justice', 'equity', 'equality' are poorly defined too, and mean different things depending on who you ask. Our language is full of these poorly defined umbrella terms. But I know what to expect when I hear somebody described as 'woke'. In fact you use 'conservative' this way in your comment, but conservatism encompasses a very broad range of thought too.
  - teg4n_ 2y ago
    Most people don’t even say woke at all because most people don’t talk with political shibboleths specifically and consciously pushed as a scare tactic for critical race theory. I expect the more neutral term would be “political correctness” and using it doesn’t make you sound like you watch too much fox news.

teg4n_ 2y ago

“wokeism” isn’t a defined thing, that’s why it’s off putting, it’s just a boogeyman pushed by conservative politicians and media. Even when you ask what they mean by it it ends up being applied to basically anything they don’t like.

Fredkin 2y ago
To most it's a blunt shorthand for radical progressivism to the point of an obsessive panic about who's the biggest victim and the biggest victimizer. It typically points to somebody who holds an ensemble of ideas surrounding race, gender, diversity, feminism, safety, sometimes mental health, disability, obesity etc with particular emphasis on performative acts of policing the language people use to refer to groups of people. The terms 'whiteness', 'white privilege', 'diversity', 'social justice', 'equity', 'equality' are poorly defined too, and mean different things depending on who you ask. Our language is full of these poorly defined umbrella terms. But I know what to expect when I hear somebody described as 'woke'. In fact you use 'conservative' this way in your comment, but conservatism encompasses a very broad range of thought too.
- teg4n_ 2y ago
  Most people don’t even say woke at all because most people don’t talk with political shibboleths specifically and consciously pushed as a scare tactic for critical race theory. I expect the more neutral term would be “political correctness” and using it doesn’t make you sound like you watch too much fox news.