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No one's saying that they should include a DE into Sway. Your precious WM will still be with you even if someone decides to make a new tiling DE. I'm a Hyprlan

No one's saying that they should include a DE into Sway. Your precious WM will still be with you even if someone decides to make a new tiling DE. I'm a Hyprland user and honestly, cobbling together a poor man's DE using half-baked amateur-ish GTK apps and copy-pasting Nerd Font icons no longer spark any joy for me. I'm basically ready to jump at the first sight of a viable alternative. I'm very optimistic about Cosmic DE in this regards.

subsection1h 2y ago
> cobbling together a poor man's DE using half-baked amateur-ish GTK apps Do you think that GNOME's web browser (Epiphany?) and KDE's web browser (Konqueror?) are better than Firefox and Chromium? Do you think that GNOME Text Editor and KDE's text editor (Kate?) are better than Emacs?
- dicytea 2y ago
  By DE, I'm mostly talking about having a cohesive graphical shell, not the random apps that comes pre-installed (who cares about those?). The login manager, lock screen, taskbar, notification daemon, launcher, OSD, workspace overview, etc. In WMs (or WM-like compositors), you either have to cobble all of this together yourself or just give up and convince yourself that you're a minimalist. Doing this kind of stuff was fun for a while, but these days I'm starting to crave for something actually good and polished.
- leni536 2y ago
  I'm using KDE and I have neither Konqueror nor Kate installed. Those are very much optional, I don't consider them part of the DE.
- badsectoracula 2y ago
  FWIW i do like and use Falkon (KDE's browser) often these days as it is based QtWebEngine (Chromium in Qt) but has a simple Qt-based interface. I still use Firefox as my main browser but when i need to open a completely separate browser (sometimes sites do like my Firefox configuration - or i just want to test out something) i've found Falkon to be the best alternative. Also Kate is better than Emacs as far as i'm concerned because it doesn't have its own weird UX and doesn't take reading a tutorial to figure out how to have a sidebar with a file browser in it :-P (i've long figure out how that is done on Emacs and use it occasionally because of custom language support elisp i wrote ages ago and don't want to bother rewriting but these days 99% of my plain text editing needs are covered by Kate). (also FWIW i'm not using KDE/Plasma as my DE, in fact i'm using Window Maker instead of a DE at all, i just like some of KDE's utilities)
aledue 2y ago
I've recently installed (a maintained fork of) Krohnkite[0], a tiling WM for Plasma 6, and I'm happy with it so far after tweaking the key bindings. Things I miss: - a scratchpad; - toggling back and forth between desktops/workspaces with super+number (e.g. super+3 goes to desktop 3, but if I'm already on 3 I want to go back to the previous desktop); - I also miss a bit the "manual" tiling from i3/sway (where you can choose where the next split will be). Krohnkite is DWM-style with predefined layouts (two columns, spiral, monocle...). Maybe some of this can be done on Plasma/Krohnkite too (for the third I doubt but it's low priority), I haven't really looked into that. [0] https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite/ https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite/
RealStickman_ 2y ago
I just switched from sway to KDE + Kröhnkite script for the exact same reasons. So far I like it, though it is slightly different.

subsection1h 2y ago

> cobbling together a poor man's DE using half-baked amateur-ish GTK apps Do you think that GNOME's web browser (Epiphany?) and KDE's web browser (Konqueror?) are better than Firefox and Chromium? Do you think that GNOME Text Editor and KDE's text editor (Kate?) are better than Emacs?

dicytea 2y ago
By DE, I'm mostly talking about having a cohesive graphical shell, not the random apps that comes pre-installed (who cares about those?). The login manager, lock screen, taskbar, notification daemon, launcher, OSD, workspace overview, etc. In WMs (or WM-like compositors), you either have to cobble all of this together yourself or just give up and convince yourself that you're a minimalist. Doing this kind of stuff was fun for a while, but these days I'm starting to crave for something actually good and polished.
leni536 2y ago
I'm using KDE and I have neither Konqueror nor Kate installed. Those are very much optional, I don't consider them part of the DE.
badsectoracula 2y ago
FWIW i do like and use Falkon (KDE's browser) often these days as it is based QtWebEngine (Chromium in Qt) but has a simple Qt-based interface. I still use Firefox as my main browser but when i need to open a completely separate browser (sometimes sites do like my Firefox configuration - or i just want to test out something) i've found Falkon to be the best alternative. Also Kate is better than Emacs as far as i'm concerned because it doesn't have its own weird UX and doesn't take reading a tutorial to figure out how to have a sidebar with a file browser in it :-P (i've long figure out how that is done on Emacs and use it occasionally because of custom language support elisp i wrote ages ago and don't want to bother rewriting but these days 99% of my plain text editing needs are covered by Kate). (also FWIW i'm not using KDE/Plasma as my DE, in fact i'm using Window Maker instead of a DE at all, i just like some of KDE's utilities)

aledue 2y ago

I've recently installed (a maintained fork of) Krohnkite[0], a tiling WM for Plasma 6, and I'm happy with it so far after tweaking the key bindings. Things I miss: - a scratchpad; - toggling back and forth between desktops/workspaces with super+number (e.g. super+3 goes to desktop 3, but if I'm already on 3 I want to go back to the previous desktop); - I also miss a bit the "manual" tiling from i3/sway (where you can choose where the next split will be). Krohnkite is DWM-style with predefined layouts (two columns, spiral, monocle...). Maybe some of this can be done on Plasma/Krohnkite too (for the third I doubt but it's low priority), I haven't really looked into that. [0] https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite/ https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite/

RealStickman_ 2y ago

I just switched from sway to KDE + Kröhnkite script for the exact same reasons. So far I like it, though it is slightly different.