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I think the same argument could be made for Twitter/X. The app stores by Google and Apple specifically disallow pornographic material, yet the app is full of it

I think the same argument could be made for Twitter/X. The app stores by Google and Apple specifically disallow pornographic material, yet the app is full of it. Once you're big and important enough, the rules mostly don't apply for you anymore. Of course, if they tried to circumvent the app store tax directly within the app, there would be consequences, but as long as Google/Apple can make a profit, it's okay it seems.

drexlspivey 2y ago
Can an aggregator/distributor be liable for user created content? You can find porn in Reddit or Google Search and these apps are still in the app store so I don’t think they are getting any special treatment.
- BlueTemplar 2y ago
  There are some protections for hosting illegal data (real illegal, not EULA-disapproved), but they tend to go away if the host does any kind of editorializing (like showing the data through an algorithmic feed). Google Search is different yet, since they aren't the primary host.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  Even Tapatalk had to filter out "adult" forums - and it's just a client to connect to 3rd party forums. On Twitter you can find actual porn straight up.
- XlA5vEKsMISoIln 2y ago
  Didn't work out for Organic Maps. Merely allowing to access map data makes you un-family-friendly. Or at least that's what we can assume, since Google won't indulge in specifics. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41272925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41272925
hoseja 2y ago
I don't think I've ever actually seen any porn on eXtwitter. (Well, on main.) Why was a perfectly fine Unicode Blackboard X filtered out of my post.
- kevindamm 2y ago
  HN strips out emoji and other non-language characters, may be related to that
- thomas34298 2y ago
  There is a lot of porn. X even added official rules for it: https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/adult-content https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/adult-content I don't have an iPhone, but I know that you can access it via the official app from Google Play.
  - hoseja 2y ago
    What I'm saying, you have to seek it out.
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Quarrel 2y ago
> I think the same argument could be made for Twitter/X. The app stores by Google and Apple specifically disallow pornographic material, yet the app is full of it. Reddit is allowed too. imgur, snap, etc. I assumed you're fine as long as your raison d'être wasn't porn and the content was user generated / supplied.
- judge2020 2y ago
  To add, Tumblr was lambasted for them not properly policing their porn[0], accidentally allowing CSAM, and Apple being the one to inform them of this error. it's what led to them banning all 18+ content, arguably sealing the platform's fate of irrelevancy. 0: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-child-pornography-removed-from-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...
  - abirch 2y ago
    I thought Yahoo's acquisition was what stopped their 18+ content But perhaps the most catastrophic misfire of all was the notorious ‘porn ban’ that came into place on December 17, 2018 – a policy partly driven by a US law [1] that made websites liable for sex trafficking that might take place on their platform. The ban covers ‘female presenting nipples’, genitals, and any depicted sex acts. Until then, the platform had remained a refuge for a devoted community of users, but this decision affected swift and dire consequences. https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  And who determines that reason? Twitter seems to work fine with no restrictions but Discord basically has to lock down any server marked as 18+ (regardless of the content of 18+. Don't know how mobile has had 15 years to do granular content warnings based on decades of other medium but app stores still assume 18+ = porn).
  - Quarrel 2y ago

drexlspivey 2y ago

Can an aggregator/distributor be liable for user created content? You can find porn in Reddit or Google Search and these apps are still in the app store so I don’t think they are getting any special treatment.

BlueTemplar 2y ago
There are some protections for hosting illegal data (real illegal, not EULA-disapproved), but they tend to go away if the host does any kind of editorializing (like showing the data through an algorithmic feed). Google Search is different yet, since they aren't the primary host.
theshrike79 2y ago
Even Tapatalk had to filter out "adult" forums - and it's just a client to connect to 3rd party forums. On Twitter you can find actual porn straight up.
XlA5vEKsMISoIln 2y ago
Didn't work out for Organic Maps. Merely allowing to access map data makes you un-family-friendly. Or at least that's what we can assume, since Google won't indulge in specifics. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41272925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41272925

hoseja 2y ago

I don't think I've ever actually seen any porn on eXtwitter. (Well, on main.) Why was a perfectly fine Unicode Blackboard X filtered out of my post.

kevindamm 2y ago
HN strips out emoji and other non-language characters, may be related to that
thomas34298 2y ago
There is a lot of porn. X even added official rules for it: https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/adult-content https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/adult-content I don't have an iPhone, but I know that you can access it via the official app from Google Play.
- hoseja 2y ago
  What I'm saying, you have to seek it out.

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Quarrel 2y ago

> I think the same argument could be made for Twitter/X. The app stores by Google and Apple specifically disallow pornographic material, yet the app is full of it. Reddit is allowed too. imgur, snap, etc. I assumed you're fine as long as your raison d'être wasn't porn and the content was user generated / supplied.

judge2020 2y ago
To add, Tumblr was lambasted for them not properly policing their porn[0], accidentally allowing CSAM, and Apple being the one to inform them of this error. it's what led to them banning all 18+ content, arguably sealing the platform's fate of irrelevancy. 0: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-child-pornography-removed-from-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...
- abirch 2y ago
  I thought Yahoo's acquisition was what stopped their 18+ content But perhaps the most catastrophic misfire of all was the notorious ‘porn ban’ that came into place on December 17, 2018 – a policy partly driven by a US law [1] that made websites liable for sex trafficking that might take place on their platform. The ban covers ‘female presenting nipples’, genitals, and any depicted sex acts. Until then, the platform had remained a refuge for a devoted community of users, but this decision affected swift and dire consequences. https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA
johnnyanmac 2y ago
And who determines that reason? Twitter seems to work fine with no restrictions but Discord basically has to lock down any server marked as 18+ (regardless of the content of 18+. Don't know how mobile has had 15 years to do granular content warnings based on decades of other medium but app stores still assume 18+ = porn).
- Quarrel 2y ago