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This is what the far right in Brazil wants you to believe, but it's not true. It's especially not true in regards to X, as they have repeatedly ignored judicial

by epups 2y ago

This is what the far right in Brazil wants you to believe, but it's not true. It's especially not true in regards to X, as they have repeatedly ignored judicial decisions that are very similar to those by European courts (ie, remove illegal content).

ilikehurdles 2y ago
What's illegal in Brazil isn't illegal elsewhere. Their requests would impact people far outside their own jurisdiction.
- Qwertious 2y ago
  ...how is that different to EU court rulings? Take your comment, and swap out "Brazil" with the name of any other country, and absolutely nothing changes.
vintermann 2y ago
Well, one of the people calling out this insanity is Glenn Greenwald. How can he be "the far right in Brazil", when his reporting on Lava Jato is one of the main reasons Lula is not in jail any longer?
- Qem 2y ago
  I admire Glenn, he did a great job reporting on Snowden revelations and the Vaza-Jato scandal in Brazil. I believe his stand is principled, but he appears to have the shortcoming of often trying to apply concepts from the US legal and institutional framework to places where it simply doesn't apply, like trying to fit square pegs to round holes. This sent him into a wild goose chase in this case.
- epups 2y ago
  Greenwald is an odd one, I'll give you that. He seems to see this issue from a libertarian perspective. He would also say that Germany banning Nazi speech is censorship, for example. It's worth nothing that his last professional occupation was being a stooge in a far right show.
  - ImJamal 2y ago
    > He would also say that Germany banning Nazi speech is censorship, for example. Are you suggesting it is not? If you don't think it is censorship then how do you define censorship?
SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
How do you know that they’re similar? As the source article describes, the court has not published the orders they’re asking Twitter to enforce, and they don’t seem to be available at all to the public.
- epups 2y ago
  A huge chunk of them were made public: https://apnews.com/article/brazil-twitter-elon-musk-x-censorship-f51dc67d51c8f5a1cf152ba467f44a8f https://apnews.com/article/brazil-twitter-elon-musk-x-censor... To the people disagreeing with my parent statement, could you find one non far right affiliated legal scholar who would say those orders are illegal?

by epups 2y ago

ilikehurdles 2y ago

What's illegal in Brazil isn't illegal elsewhere. Their requests would impact people far outside their own jurisdiction.

Qwertious 2y ago
...how is that different to EU court rulings? Take your comment, and swap out "Brazil" with the name of any other country, and absolutely nothing changes.

vintermann 2y ago

Well, one of the people calling out this insanity is Glenn Greenwald. How can he be "the far right in Brazil", when his reporting on Lava Jato is one of the main reasons Lula is not in jail any longer?

Qem 2y ago
I admire Glenn, he did a great job reporting on Snowden revelations and the Vaza-Jato scandal in Brazil. I believe his stand is principled, but he appears to have the shortcoming of often trying to apply concepts from the US legal and institutional framework to places where it simply doesn't apply, like trying to fit square pegs to round holes. This sent him into a wild goose chase in this case.
epups 2y ago
Greenwald is an odd one, I'll give you that. He seems to see this issue from a libertarian perspective. He would also say that Germany banning Nazi speech is censorship, for example. It's worth nothing that his last professional occupation was being a stooge in a far right show.
- ImJamal 2y ago
  > He would also say that Germany banning Nazi speech is censorship, for example. Are you suggesting it is not? If you don't think it is censorship then how do you define censorship?

SpicyLemonZest 2y ago

How do you know that they’re similar? As the source article describes, the court has not published the orders they’re asking Twitter to enforce, and they don’t seem to be available at all to the public.

epups 2y ago
A huge chunk of them were made public: https://apnews.com/article/brazil-twitter-elon-musk-x-censorship-f51dc67d51c8f5a1cf152ba467f44a8f https://apnews.com/article/brazil-twitter-elon-musk-x-censor... To the people disagreeing with my parent statement, could you find one non far right affiliated legal scholar who would say those orders are illegal?