5 ms·

I don't understand your line of thought. The question with Kim was not about open-source, was about copyright and intellectual property all along. As other com

I don't understand your line of thought. The question with Kim was not about open-source, was about copyright and intellectual property all along. As other comments noted, the man literally made millions distributing copyrighted material, while completely aware of what he was doing.

enriquec 2y ago
no. he gave people a way to send stuff and they sent what they wanted.
- SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
  Have you read the indictment? It makes a pretty strong case that he knew copyright infringement was the cash cow of his business model, structuring the business and lying to copyright holders in order to make the infringement more effective. Deleting links without removing the infringing content from the server is the big smoking gun to me - there’s really no legitimate reason to do that.
  - enriquec 2y ago
    disagree
  - snapcaster 2y ago
    So what? are you a record executive? why do you feel so strongly about this? what is motivating you to simp for the empire so hard?
    - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
      I don’t think this is an honest question and I’m not going to engage with it.
      - throwadobe 2y ago
        That's the mother of cop outs. It's an absolutely honest question.
        SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
        Perhaps we're using terminology differently. When I say "honest question", I mean a question that someone wants a straightforward answer to, perhaps as a starting point for further discussion. "What is motivating you to simp for the empire so hard?" is not such a question. Having been in such conversations before, if I responded with an honest answer like "I generally think the US is a pretty good country" or "I feel that it's important for criminals to be caught and punished", I'm quite confident that the original commenter would respond with personal insults and invective.
        throwadobe 2y ago
        You're arguing legality trumps morality. We're in the opposite camp. Fuck MPAA/RIAA. They're not good faith actors and they play dirty all the time. We need to fight dirty too. It's so rich of those guys to complain of racketeering of all things!
snapcaster 2y ago
people used to be embarrassed in forums like this about being so pro-government. Tech has been completely captured by normies
- enriquec 2y ago
  yup, what a bummer
ajsnigrutin 2y ago
On the other hand, the straming/video 'services', are literally stealing stuff you bought from them. How is that better? If there's a "buy"/"purchase" button, the movie is yours... it's not a "rent" button, where they can take it away whenever they want. Kim is a modern day robin hood. Illegal, criminal, yada yada? Sure. Is he "bad" for the people? Well... that's very debatable.
retinaros 2y ago
chatgpt is doing just that and they re being praised for it. hell they even break deal with gov agencies
- SXX 2y ago
  But it's run by Altman and Microsoft. They bring money to US so allowed to do it.
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
No he didn't. He made money through ads. The fact that copyright stuff was on the platform doesn't mean he should be arrested.

enriquec 2y ago

no. he gave people a way to send stuff and they sent what they wanted.

SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
Have you read the indictment? It makes a pretty strong case that he knew copyright infringement was the cash cow of his business model, structuring the business and lying to copyright holders in order to make the infringement more effective. Deleting links without removing the infringing content from the server is the big smoking gun to me - there’s really no legitimate reason to do that.
- enriquec 2y ago
  disagree
- snapcaster 2y ago
  So what? are you a record executive? why do you feel so strongly about this? what is motivating you to simp for the empire so hard?
  - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
    I don’t think this is an honest question and I’m not going to engage with it.
    - throwadobe 2y ago
      That's the mother of cop outs. It's an absolutely honest question.
      - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
        Perhaps we're using terminology differently. When I say "honest question", I mean a question that someone wants a straightforward answer to, perhaps as a starting point for further discussion. "What is motivating you to simp for the empire so hard?" is not such a question. Having been in such conversations before, if I responded with an honest answer like "I generally think the US is a pretty good country" or "I feel that it's important for criminals to be caught and punished", I'm quite confident that the original commenter would respond with personal insults and invective.
        throwadobe 2y ago
        You're arguing legality trumps morality. We're in the opposite camp. Fuck MPAA/RIAA. They're not good faith actors and they play dirty all the time. We need to fight dirty too. It's so rich of those guys to complain of racketeering of all things!

snapcaster 2y ago

people used to be embarrassed in forums like this about being so pro-government. Tech has been completely captured by normies

enriquec 2y ago
yup, what a bummer

ajsnigrutin 2y ago

On the other hand, the straming/video 'services', are literally stealing stuff you bought from them. How is that better? If there's a "buy"/"purchase" button, the movie is yours... it's not a "rent" button, where they can take it away whenever they want. Kim is a modern day robin hood. Illegal, criminal, yada yada? Sure. Is he "bad" for the people? Well... that's very debatable.

retinaros 2y ago

chatgpt is doing just that and they re being praised for it. hell they even break deal with gov agencies

SXX 2y ago
But it's run by Altman and Microsoft. They bring money to US so allowed to do it.

deleted 2y ago

[deleted]

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

No he didn't. He made money through ads. The fact that copyright stuff was on the platform doesn't mean he should be arrested.