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I really like how there are only 12 channels, and you don't get to choose what's on. The only way to make it even more like tv from a few decades ago would be i

I really like how there are only 12 channels, and you don't get to choose what's on. The only way to make it even more like tv from a few decades ago would be if half of the channels were static.

loloquwowndueo 2y ago
Given how full of crap content and intrusive ads YouTube is these days, I actually kinda miss tv from back then. About the only benefits at this point are time shifting and pause/rewind.
- tracerbulletx 2y ago
  I mean you realize there were many more ads per hour on TV though right? What makes the youtube ones more intrusive?
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  With real TV and a DVR you haven't had to see a single commercial in the last 25 years if you didn't want to. We don't talk enough about how streaming has forced us into a much worse experience with ads that are unskippable, privacy-invading, and now I hear they're being dynamically inserted into programming mid-scene.
  - randomdata 2y ago
    We talked about it plenty back when the legacy media companies were refusing to move online. "The ad spend isn't nearly a high online." they would say, with "Yeah, but people actually watch the ads online. Give it a few minutes." in response. At some points topics become stale.
- arethuza 2y ago
  I've long since concluded that YouTube's ads are merely a way of persuading me to upgrade to Premium. Given that they actually seem to be pretty good at recommending content to me I am mystified by why the ad selection is so awful.
  - randomdata 2y ago
    1. If the ad selection is too good, people will fall into the uncanny valley. They have to make it terrible enough to maintain user confidence. 2, They may not have anything better to select from. Quickly start/stop the ads a few times and it will usually (but not always) give up on showing any ad at all, which suggests to me that the available ad pool at that point in time is being exhausted.
  - UncleOxidant 2y ago
    I got a f'n Trump asking for money ad on YT last night. The algorithm should know better than to serve me something like that.
    - gwervc 2y ago
      If the ads are indeed just a way to push for subscriptions and you are upset or annoyed by a particular add, the algorithm is perfectly doing its job.
    - yesco 2y ago
      But doesn't it make sense to pay for targeted political ads towards people opposed to you? The algorithm allows advertisers to do targeted advertising, and you were targeted, the subtle implication that targeted advertising would only show you "what you want to see" was intentional and misleading to get people on board with their attention being sold to the highest bidder.
    - randomdata 2y ago
      Because you are already a donor?
  - aAaaArrRgH 2y ago
    The ad placements aren't tailored to you. They're tailored to the advertiser's wishes.
- dbspin 2y ago
  It's still trivial to block these though with a combination of uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock. Despite Google's ongoing efforts to make this impossible.
- naikrovek 2y ago
  have you forgotten how bad commercials were back then, and still are? I haven't watched TV in years and years and years, because of the ads. I have a YouTube premium subscription and I am not ever going to watch broadcast or cable tv again. ever.
  - Baljhin 2y ago
    > have you forgotten how bad commercials were back then Most weren't 'bad', just noise. Sure there were some cringy ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts0XG6qDIco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts0XG6qDIco But some were GREAT! -- Remember 'CH-ch-ch Chia Pet!' ?? ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M -- How's about local commercials, like in Philadelphia: "Krass Brothers - Store of the Stars!!" ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5R4rNxSWFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5R4rNxSWFw
    - naikrovek 2y ago
      By “bad” I mean “commercials exist and are shown on TV”. I don’t ever want to see a commercial. I have never been influenced by one. I never will be unless they change dramatically. There is no sales pitch that does not immediately make me dislike the salesperson. “You don’t deserve your money as much as I do.” That’s all a commercial is. “We want your money so here is some quick audio and maybe video designed to convince you to give your money to us, in exchange for something less valuable than the amount you paid.”
myself248 2y ago
Integrate a Kinect / Realsense camera that estimates your body pose, so you have to stand in front of the computer and hold your arms in a specific way to direct a weak signal into the rabbit-ears...
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zikduruqe 2y ago
Or if they could simulate an antenna rotor and you had to turn it towards the station.
gryn 2y ago
if we're talking about stuff to make it more authentic, how about looking up my local weather if there's a strong storm the quality drops + more static, and a small (rng) chance of it completely breaking if the antenna upstairs got completely broken by the strong wind.
Tiktaalik 2y ago
For real accuracy of tv of a few decades ago they could add a 13th channel that takes content from Pornhub, but then adds a bunch of filters so you can barely see anything.
- jagged-chisel 2y ago
  Even better: make not-porn videos with vegetables, but when it's obfuscated it would look like porn. Repetitive motions will help.
  - newswasboring 2y ago
    Is this an American thing? This sounds hilarious
- edm0nd 2y ago
  A Girls Gone Wild channel on channel 13 that only starts past 10pm.
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I really like how there are only 12 channels, and you don't get to choose what's on. The only way to make it even more like tv from a few decades ago would be if half of the channels were static.

loloquwowndueo 2y ago

Given how full of crap content and intrusive ads YouTube is these days, I actually kinda miss tv from back then. About the only benefits at this point are time shifting and pause/rewind.

tracerbulletx 2y ago
I mean you realize there were many more ads per hour on TV though right? What makes the youtube ones more intrusive?
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
With real TV and a DVR you haven't had to see a single commercial in the last 25 years if you didn't want to. We don't talk enough about how streaming has forced us into a much worse experience with ads that are unskippable, privacy-invading, and now I hear they're being dynamically inserted into programming mid-scene.
- randomdata 2y ago
  We talked about it plenty back when the legacy media companies were refusing to move online. "The ad spend isn't nearly a high online." they would say, with "Yeah, but people actually watch the ads online. Give it a few minutes." in response. At some points topics become stale.
arethuza 2y ago
I've long since concluded that YouTube's ads are merely a way of persuading me to upgrade to Premium. Given that they actually seem to be pretty good at recommending content to me I am mystified by why the ad selection is so awful.
- randomdata 2y ago
  1. If the ad selection is too good, people will fall into the uncanny valley. They have to make it terrible enough to maintain user confidence. 2, They may not have anything better to select from. Quickly start/stop the ads a few times and it will usually (but not always) give up on showing any ad at all, which suggests to me that the available ad pool at that point in time is being exhausted.
- UncleOxidant 2y ago
  I got a f'n Trump asking for money ad on YT last night. The algorithm should know better than to serve me something like that.
  - gwervc 2y ago
    If the ads are indeed just a way to push for subscriptions and you are upset or annoyed by a particular add, the algorithm is perfectly doing its job.
  - yesco 2y ago
    But doesn't it make sense to pay for targeted political ads towards people opposed to you? The algorithm allows advertisers to do targeted advertising, and you were targeted, the subtle implication that targeted advertising would only show you "what you want to see" was intentional and misleading to get people on board with their attention being sold to the highest bidder.
  - randomdata 2y ago
    Because you are already a donor?
- aAaaArrRgH 2y ago
  The ad placements aren't tailored to you. They're tailored to the advertiser's wishes.
dbspin 2y ago
It's still trivial to block these though with a combination of uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock. Despite Google's ongoing efforts to make this impossible.
naikrovek 2y ago
have you forgotten how bad commercials were back then, and still are? I haven't watched TV in years and years and years, because of the ads. I have a YouTube premium subscription and I am not ever going to watch broadcast or cable tv again. ever.
- Baljhin 2y ago
  > have you forgotten how bad commercials were back then Most weren't 'bad', just noise. Sure there were some cringy ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts0XG6qDIco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts0XG6qDIco But some were GREAT! -- Remember 'CH-ch-ch Chia Pet!' ?? ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M -- How's about local commercials, like in Philadelphia: "Krass Brothers - Store of the Stars!!" ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5R4rNxSWFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5R4rNxSWFw
  - naikrovek 2y ago
    By “bad” I mean “commercials exist and are shown on TV”. I don’t ever want to see a commercial. I have never been influenced by one. I never will be unless they change dramatically. There is no sales pitch that does not immediately make me dislike the salesperson. “You don’t deserve your money as much as I do.” That’s all a commercial is. “We want your money so here is some quick audio and maybe video designed to convince you to give your money to us, in exchange for something less valuable than the amount you paid.”

myself248 2y ago

Integrate a Kinect / Realsense camera that estimates your body pose, so you have to stand in front of the computer and hold your arms in a specific way to direct a weak signal into the rabbit-ears...

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zikduruqe 2y ago

Or if they could simulate an antenna rotor and you had to turn it towards the station.

gryn 2y ago

if we're talking about stuff to make it more authentic, how about looking up my local weather if there's a strong storm the quality drops + more static, and a small (rng) chance of it completely breaking if the antenna upstairs got completely broken by the strong wind.

Tiktaalik 2y ago

For real accuracy of tv of a few decades ago they could add a 13th channel that takes content from Pornhub, but then adds a bunch of filters so you can barely see anything.

jagged-chisel 2y ago
Even better: make not-porn videos with vegetables, but when it's obfuscated it would look like porn. Repetitive motions will help.
- newswasboring 2y ago
  Is this an American thing? This sounds hilarious
edm0nd 2y ago
A Girls Gone Wild channel on channel 13 that only starts past 10pm.

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consf 2y ago

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