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RadioLab had a show recently on this subject, it's really well put. a must listen episode.

by rabbidroid 14y ago

JaggedJax 14y ago
Here's that episode for anyone interested: http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/ http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/
- simonsquiff 14y ago
  Thank you for the link. I've just finished it and it was utterly enthralling. If you were interested in this article then please do listen to this - exceptionally well researched, beautifully put together and genuinely enlightening.
rhizome 14y ago
This isn't the same thing. The Radiolab episode is about the physical interface to color and the above article is about words changing the meaning of color. Strangely, in none of the comments here or on the article does anybody mention the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, which covers the linguistic aspects of this story. While there is some debate about the validity of linguistic relativity in the general case, it's basically a "nope." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
- gruseom 14y ago
  "or [i]n the article does anybody mention the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" The name "Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" may not literally appear but the whole article is obviously about it: This question goes back to an idea by the American linguist Benjamin Whorf, who suggested that our language determines how we perceive the world. There have been other recent discoveries in favor of the hypothesis posted here as well. I've felt for a long time that Sapir-Whorf will be rehabilitated; it doesn't make sense that something so fundamental as language wouldn't have cognitive effects.
  - rhizome 14y ago
    Well that's just my mistake, then. :/ Thanks for the backup, I didn't mean to post half-cocked.
    - gruseom 14y ago
      No worries. I actually went and looked for the post I was thinking of that last touched on this, and found that we'd both already commented in that thread.
- eli 14y ago
  The show specifically talked about words changing the meaning of color. In fact they used the same japanese example mentioned elsewhere in these comments. Did you perhaps listen to one act instead of the whole thing?
  - mratzloff 14y ago
    Guys, this article is "part 2" for a reason. If you read part 1 they even mention the Radiolab show, as well as the Japanese blue/green thing.

RadioLab had a show recently on this subject, it's really well put. a must listen episode.

JaggedJax 14y ago

Here's that episode for anyone interested: http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/ http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/

simonsquiff 14y ago
Thank you for the link. I've just finished it and it was utterly enthralling. If you were interested in this article then please do listen to this - exceptionally well researched, beautifully put together and genuinely enlightening.

rhizome 14y ago

This isn't the same thing. The Radiolab episode is about the physical interface to color and the above article is about words changing the meaning of color. Strangely, in none of the comments here or on the article does anybody mention the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, which covers the linguistic aspects of this story. While there is some debate about the validity of linguistic relativity in the general case, it's basically a "nope." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity

gruseom 14y ago
"or [i]n the article does anybody mention the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" The name "Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" may not literally appear but the whole article is obviously about it: This question goes back to an idea by the American linguist Benjamin Whorf, who suggested that our language determines how we perceive the world. There have been other recent discoveries in favor of the hypothesis posted here as well. I've felt for a long time that Sapir-Whorf will be rehabilitated; it doesn't make sense that something so fundamental as language wouldn't have cognitive effects.
- rhizome 14y ago
  Well that's just my mistake, then. :/ Thanks for the backup, I didn't mean to post half-cocked.
  - gruseom 14y ago
    No worries. I actually went and looked for the post I was thinking of that last touched on this, and found that we'd both already commented in that thread.
eli 14y ago
The show specifically talked about words changing the meaning of color. In fact they used the same japanese example mentioned elsewhere in these comments. Did you perhaps listen to one act instead of the whole thing?
- mratzloff 14y ago
  Guys, this article is "part 2" for a reason. If you read part 1 they even mention the Radiolab show, as well as the Japanese blue/green thing.