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Being a man in 2024 is a rather pathetic experience honestly. You constantly feel like a beggar in the dating market. How can you build self-esteem with that? N

Being a man in 2024 is a rather pathetic experience honestly. You constantly feel like a beggar in the dating market. How can you build self-esteem with that? No wonder so many men simply check out.

p1esk 2y ago
You mean being an unattractive man in 2024? It’s probably just as pathetic as it was in 1024. Attractive ones are doing fine, as usual.
- katzinsky 2y ago
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  - p1esk 2y ago
    Pretty sure someone was saying exactly this in a bar somewhere, a thousand years ago.
    - katzinsky 2y ago
      Yeah this kind of thing comes and goes in cycles. Computers have a multiplying effect but this isn't new. When you get to the point that you're picking up women in bars you're in the same phase of the cycle we're in now.
    - eltoxo 2y ago
      They most certainly were not. There is no netflix and chill without birth control. We take birth control for granted now but the dynamics are so different if casual sex leads to children. It is an insane practice for both parties without birth control and isn't a thing. We didn't have that figured out as a society and then we got both the internet and birth control. Don Giovanni is supposed to be a myth about a guy sleeping with a 100 women because the idea was so crazy just a few generations ago.
      - katzinsky 2y ago
        Silphium used to exist which is a natural chemical birth control and there are of course less reliable methods. Not that pregnancy really stops women anyway. I think the idea of contraception makes them a little more open to promiscuity but I personally know a number of married women who have had children with other men and these dating sites are full of single mothers.
      - p1esk 2y ago
        Dating was different, but men were still saying this just like they do now. See my point? Don’t know about Don Giovanni, men wanted to be him then and they still do now.
- nakeru 2y ago
  I'm average looking, and I've dated and "been" with many women. I'm not even tall (I'm relatively short, in fact, shorter than some women I've been with), nor rich. I should have terrible self esteem, but I don't. That, plus being social and kind to others (and maybe a bit funny) really helps. A lot more than looks alone or money. Posts like the OP are just incels pushing an agenda.
- bulbosaur123 2y ago
  No, I didn't mean that. I meant being a normal man. Average = unnatractive to women in 2024. Just the way it is.
otabdeveloper4 2y ago
There is no "dating market". Homo sapiens is a monogamous and patriarchal species. We have the technology to ignore this fact now, but any such attempt is fundamentally working against human biology.

Being a man in 2024 is a rather pathetic experience honestly. You constantly feel like a beggar in the dating market. How can you build self-esteem with that? No wonder so many men simply check out.

p1esk 2y ago

You mean being an unattractive man in 2024? It’s probably just as pathetic as it was in 1024. Attractive ones are doing fine, as usual.

katzinsky 2y ago
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- p1esk 2y ago
  Pretty sure someone was saying exactly this in a bar somewhere, a thousand years ago.
  - katzinsky 2y ago
    Yeah this kind of thing comes and goes in cycles. Computers have a multiplying effect but this isn't new. When you get to the point that you're picking up women in bars you're in the same phase of the cycle we're in now.
  - eltoxo 2y ago
    They most certainly were not. There is no netflix and chill without birth control. We take birth control for granted now but the dynamics are so different if casual sex leads to children. It is an insane practice for both parties without birth control and isn't a thing. We didn't have that figured out as a society and then we got both the internet and birth control. Don Giovanni is supposed to be a myth about a guy sleeping with a 100 women because the idea was so crazy just a few generations ago.
    - katzinsky 2y ago
      Silphium used to exist which is a natural chemical birth control and there are of course less reliable methods. Not that pregnancy really stops women anyway. I think the idea of contraception makes them a little more open to promiscuity but I personally know a number of married women who have had children with other men and these dating sites are full of single mothers.
    - p1esk 2y ago
      Dating was different, but men were still saying this just like they do now. See my point? Don’t know about Don Giovanni, men wanted to be him then and they still do now.
nakeru 2y ago
I'm average looking, and I've dated and "been" with many women. I'm not even tall (I'm relatively short, in fact, shorter than some women I've been with), nor rich. I should have terrible self esteem, but I don't. That, plus being social and kind to others (and maybe a bit funny) really helps. A lot more than looks alone or money. Posts like the OP are just incels pushing an agenda.
bulbosaur123 2y ago
No, I didn't mean that. I meant being a normal man. Average = unnatractive to women in 2024. Just the way it is.

otabdeveloper4 2y ago

There is no "dating market". Homo sapiens is a monogamous and patriarchal species. We have the technology to ignore this fact now, but any such attempt is fundamentally working against human biology.