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I think the best vertical tabs implementation in firefox is Sidebery. The use of "panes" to group tabs is brilliant. Older versions were buggy, but version 5 ha

by buo 2y ago

I think the best vertical tabs implementation in firefox is Sidebery. The use of "panes" to group tabs is brilliant. Older versions were buggy, but version 5 has been rock solid for me. https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery

sigio 2y ago
Can't agree more, have been using sidebery for about a month now, and even completely dropped chromium which I ran beside firefox for the last years to only running firefox with sideberry and container-tabs now.
- diggan 2y ago
  I've been using vertical tabs (first TreeStyleTabs, now Sideberry for the last ~6 months) and I'm in the same boat. Chrome is faster, snappier and works better on more websites I commonly use, but the fact that I cannot have "vertical tabs as trees" ruins the entire browser experience for me, so it's basically the only reason I use Firefox for the last decade or something.
  - kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
    Add NoScript and Firefox will be much faster than Chrome. It will make you aware of how much untrusted code poorly developed sites expect you to run on their behalf.
    - diggan 2y ago
      Well, turn off JavaScript in Chrome and you back to Chrome being faster. Turning off JS is obviously not a solution when the complaint is that (assuming the same amount of work) Chrome is faster for some JS.
      - kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
        NoScript doesn't turn off javascript. It allows you to selectively disable some scripts while whitelisting others. You can't use much of the modern web without JS but you can neuter the dozens of trackers and ad bloat some sites insist on running on your computer.
        diggan 2y ago
        I'm well aware of what NoScript does, I'm already using it. It seems you're missing the point of the comparison.
      - DavideNL 2y ago
        Running uBlock Origin in “Medium mode” [1] also does wonders (= blocking 3p-scripts and frames). It’s interesting to see how many websites work in this mode, and the amount of crap you’re not seeing. Websites load so much faster. And, you can then (permanently, or not) easily whitelist some specific domains like content providers, etc. while browsing. [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium...
Groxx 2y ago
I switched to sideberry a while back, and yeah - very much agreed, it's leagues ahead of others in terms of base experience breadth (container tabs and whatnot are fully integrated) and customization options. Their wiki also has a very simple and effective userChrome.css tweak to hide the top tab bar when the side panel is open. That's a rather crucial vertical space savings on a small laptop.
muwtyhg 2y ago
Another former Tree Style Tabs user, now on Sideberry with no regrets. I am excited that FireFox is working this in by default so I don't have to keep fiddling with userChrome.css to get rid of the top tab bar.
- mikae1 2y ago
  Looks like we won't have nesting in Firefox's implementation which made it kinda pointless to me.
  - bloopernova 2y ago
    So they've copied Edge's poor implementation of vertical tabs. Blech. Hey, look on the bright side: maybe chromium will get vertical tabs soon!
adhamsalama 2y ago
Sidebery is amazing. I have been using it for more than a year now and I love it.
thisisabore 2y ago
Started using Sideberry over a year ago and have not looked back since. Very good stuff.
Izkata 2y ago
I've added commands to Tridactyl that expand/collapse the tabs I'm on in Tree Style Tabs, using their javascript API. Does Sidebery have anything like that?
slightwinder 2y ago
How do panes scale for many groups? Can you manage 20, 30 panes? Or does it become annoying at this amount? Sidebery is nice, but it's missing an API allowing other addons to interact with it. This is a big benefit of Tree Style Tabs, especially as you can even exploit it as a user.
- buo 2y ago
  I have 20 panes and it works fine.
Todays10k 2y ago
How have I not heard about this in the bajillion times I whined about tab groups? I kinda dislike that Firefox only have one good option that involves completely hiding each group currently not in use, but it functioned ith their tab containers which made it worth the hassle. If this does too, I'm switching permanently
yonatan8070 2y ago
I use Sidebery, and I added some custom userChrome.css to have the sidebar collapse to only take up 36px, and expand on hover, absolutely love using it

by buo 2y ago

sigio 2y ago

Can't agree more, have been using sidebery for about a month now, and even completely dropped chromium which I ran beside firefox for the last years to only running firefox with sideberry and container-tabs now.

diggan 2y ago
I've been using vertical tabs (first TreeStyleTabs, now Sideberry for the last ~6 months) and I'm in the same boat. Chrome is faster, snappier and works better on more websites I commonly use, but the fact that I cannot have "vertical tabs as trees" ruins the entire browser experience for me, so it's basically the only reason I use Firefox for the last decade or something.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  Add NoScript and Firefox will be much faster than Chrome. It will make you aware of how much untrusted code poorly developed sites expect you to run on their behalf.
  - diggan 2y ago
    Well, turn off JavaScript in Chrome and you back to Chrome being faster. Turning off JS is obviously not a solution when the complaint is that (assuming the same amount of work) Chrome is faster for some JS.
    - kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
      NoScript doesn't turn off javascript. It allows you to selectively disable some scripts while whitelisting others. You can't use much of the modern web without JS but you can neuter the dozens of trackers and ad bloat some sites insist on running on your computer.
      - diggan 2y ago
        I'm well aware of what NoScript does, I'm already using it. It seems you're missing the point of the comparison.
    - DavideNL 2y ago
      Running uBlock Origin in “Medium mode” [1] also does wonders (= blocking 3p-scripts and frames). It’s interesting to see how many websites work in this mode, and the amount of crap you’re not seeing. Websites load so much faster. And, you can then (permanently, or not) easily whitelist some specific domains like content providers, etc. while browsing. [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium...

Groxx 2y ago

I switched to sideberry a while back, and yeah - very much agreed, it's leagues ahead of others in terms of base experience breadth (container tabs and whatnot are fully integrated) and customization options. Their wiki also has a very simple and effective userChrome.css tweak to hide the top tab bar when the side panel is open. That's a rather crucial vertical space savings on a small laptop.

muwtyhg 2y ago

Another former Tree Style Tabs user, now on Sideberry with no regrets. I am excited that FireFox is working this in by default so I don't have to keep fiddling with userChrome.css to get rid of the top tab bar.

mikae1 2y ago
Looks like we won't have nesting in Firefox's implementation which made it kinda pointless to me.
- bloopernova 2y ago
  So they've copied Edge's poor implementation of vertical tabs. Blech. Hey, look on the bright side: maybe chromium will get vertical tabs soon!

adhamsalama 2y ago

Sidebery is amazing. I have been using it for more than a year now and I love it.

thisisabore 2y ago

Started using Sideberry over a year ago and have not looked back since. Very good stuff.

Izkata 2y ago

I've added commands to Tridactyl that expand/collapse the tabs I'm on in Tree Style Tabs, using their javascript API. Does Sidebery have anything like that?

slightwinder 2y ago

How do panes scale for many groups? Can you manage 20, 30 panes? Or does it become annoying at this amount? Sidebery is nice, but it's missing an API allowing other addons to interact with it. This is a big benefit of Tree Style Tabs, especially as you can even exploit it as a user.

buo 2y ago
I have 20 panes and it works fine.

Todays10k 2y ago

How have I not heard about this in the bajillion times I whined about tab groups? I kinda dislike that Firefox only have one good option that involves completely hiding each group currently not in use, but it functioned ith their tab containers which made it worth the hassle. If this does too, I'm switching permanently

yonatan8070 2y ago

I use Sidebery, and I added some custom userChrome.css to have the sidebar collapse to only take up 36px, and expand on hover, absolutely love using it