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Some doctors* The front line primary care doctors and nurse practitioners dont make as much as IT people quite often.

by eppp 2y ago

Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
From what I understand, the primary care physicians that work for a large medical company don't make much, but ones that run their own practice can make double or even triple, but then they take on enormous risk.
whimsicalism 2y ago
Lets not lump in nurse practitioners. I'm absolutely in favor of giving more responsibilities to NPs and paying them more than they currently are. Data on doctor salaries is very difficult to come by publicly, however H1B salaries indicate the average pay for H1B PCPs is $200k [0]. These are the lowest paid physicians. If you look at the data, many many physicians are making much more than that - with many specialities averaging $300k+. Generally H1B workers make less than comparable native-born (even though that's illegal) so we should view this as a lower-bound. That puts hourly pay for average PCPs lower than the top SWEs, but comparing average with average or specialty with average and you're already quickly outpacing large majority of SWEs. [0]: https://h1bdata.info/highestpaidjob.php https://h1bdata.info/highestpaidjob.php
- stubish 2y ago
  Who is paying the malpractice etc. insurance for these doctors? Those salaries may effectively be a lot lower.
  - whimsicalism 2y ago
    These are h1b hired doctors, so almost certainly for a system laying their own malpractice.
  - FuriouslyAdrift 2y ago
    Malpractice for a GP is around $7500/yr... An OB/GYN or anesthesiologist is closer to $200k+
- ProllyInfamous 2y ago
  My local Southern US county pays it's first-year PCP's $120,000, is a MCOL-area. Of course, there is a typical shortage of doctors prying for this coveted physicianhood /s
  - whimsicalism 2y ago
    So clearly that is the lowest of the low, not sure why we are comparing the lowest rather than the averages to get a sense of pay.
bornfreddy 2y ago
Some IT people*

Some doctors* The front line primary care doctors and nurse practitioners dont make as much as IT people quite often.

by eppp 2y ago

Some doctors* The front line primary care doctors and nurse practitioners dont make as much as IT people quite often.

From what I understand, the primary care physicians that work for a large medical company don't make much, but ones that run their own practice can make double or even triple, but then they take on enormous risk.

whimsicalism 2y ago

Lets not lump in nurse practitioners. I'm absolutely in favor of giving more responsibilities to NPs and paying them more than they currently are. Data on doctor salaries is very difficult to come by publicly, however H1B salaries indicate the average pay for H1B PCPs is $200k [0]. These are the lowest paid physicians. If you look at the data, many many physicians are making much more than that - with many specialities averaging $300k+. Generally H1B workers make less than comparable native-born (even though that's illegal) so we should view this as a lower-bound. That puts hourly pay for average PCPs lower than the top SWEs, but comparing average with average or specialty with average and you're already quickly outpacing large majority of SWEs. [0]: https://h1bdata.info/highestpaidjob.php https://h1bdata.info/highestpaidjob.php

stubish 2y ago
Who is paying the malpractice etc. insurance for these doctors? Those salaries may effectively be a lot lower.
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  These are h1b hired doctors, so almost certainly for a system laying their own malpractice.
- FuriouslyAdrift 2y ago
  Malpractice for a GP is around $7500/yr... An OB/GYN or anesthesiologist is closer to $200k+
ProllyInfamous 2y ago
My local Southern US county pays it's first-year PCP's $120,000, is a MCOL-area. Of course, there is a typical shortage of doctors prying for this coveted physicianhood /s
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  So clearly that is the lowest of the low, not sure why we are comparing the lowest rather than the averages to get a sense of pay.

bornfreddy 2y ago

Some IT people*