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This is literally a black swan event that'll be memorialized in textbooks, and that's not even considering the actual fallout that will follow.

DaoVeles 2y ago
That is not an understatement. This is literally the largest failing of internet infrastructure to date. Alas, using the internet has given us a lot of efficiency. The trade off is resilience. The entire global system is more brittle than ever but it what gave it such speed.
- gwervc 2y ago
  Expectations: Russia, China or North Korea will take the Western tech infrastructure down. Reality: the infrastructure took down itself.
- mrhhaacckk 2y ago
  It's not a failing of Internet infrastructure. It's one vendor pushing out a bad update, and thousands of companies with no supply chain diversity.
  - DaoVeles 2y ago
    I responded to another comment with this and you are right, that is a fair clarification. The base infrastructure worked perfectly fine. The stuff on top of it, not so great.
- occamsrazorwit 2y ago
  In a way, this might end up being a blessing in disguise. It's an emergency drill for something potentially catastrophic (e.g. massive cyberattack, solar flare), and it's a large enough wake-up call that society can't just ignore it.
  - DaoVeles 2y ago
    I hope so but never under estimate businesses to cut corners to stay on top. I hope I am wrong.
- urbandw311er 2y ago
  I'd argue the infrastructure of the Internet isn't to blame here, it sounds like a software/config bug at Crowdstrike. There are wider discussions around over-reliance on cloud-based tech too. But the good old Internet can hold its head up high IMHO.
  - DaoVeles 2y ago
    That is a fair clarification. More an issue with the stuff on top of the internet. As per your point, the base infrastructure is working perfectly for better or worse!
  - soneil 2y ago
    I'm not really sure cloud has much blame here either. Imagine it's 1998 and Norton push a new definition file that makes NAV think kernel32 is a virus. The only real difference today is that always-on means we all get the update together, instead of waiting for mum to get off the phone this evening. We got an email this morning telling us none of our usual airlines could take bookings right now. That wouldn't have been much different in 1998, airline bookings have been centralised for my entire lifetime.
- Shaney02005 2y ago
  This not Internet failure but software functuality failure from a cyber security update , thios is why i never use real cloud security but rather use home cloud security on my Serverpc/NAS/SAN , when it crashes okay so be it i dont get acces to my cloud , but i allways use a online backupcloud that does not need instalation for most important stuff , u should never rely on 1 softweare to do all allways have backups
hnthrowaway0328 2y ago
Did you mean the Azure thing or CS thing? Just happened that the Azure thing did not impact me as I was already off...
- ricopags 2y ago
  It isn't clear at this point that the Azure thing and the CS thing are unrelated
  - tgshaik 2y ago
    Azure issue and CS issues are separate incidents. They are not related.
    - Shaney02005 2y ago
      Indeed this is different , This is world wide and it does not even only affect Windows pcs but with some friends of mine Linux and Macs are in trouble 2 , this is not ur Windows Vista BS problem etc
aaron695 2y ago
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DaoVeles 2y ago

That is not an understatement. This is literally the largest failing of internet infrastructure to date. Alas, using the internet has given us a lot of efficiency. The trade off is resilience. The entire global system is more brittle than ever but it what gave it such speed.

gwervc 2y ago
Expectations: Russia, China or North Korea will take the Western tech infrastructure down. Reality: the infrastructure took down itself.
mrhhaacckk 2y ago
It's not a failing of Internet infrastructure. It's one vendor pushing out a bad update, and thousands of companies with no supply chain diversity.
- DaoVeles 2y ago
  I responded to another comment with this and you are right, that is a fair clarification. The base infrastructure worked perfectly fine. The stuff on top of it, not so great.
occamsrazorwit 2y ago
In a way, this might end up being a blessing in disguise. It's an emergency drill for something potentially catastrophic (e.g. massive cyberattack, solar flare), and it's a large enough wake-up call that society can't just ignore it.
- DaoVeles 2y ago
  I hope so but never under estimate businesses to cut corners to stay on top. I hope I am wrong.
urbandw311er 2y ago
I'd argue the infrastructure of the Internet isn't to blame here, it sounds like a software/config bug at Crowdstrike. There are wider discussions around over-reliance on cloud-based tech too. But the good old Internet can hold its head up high IMHO.
- DaoVeles 2y ago
  That is a fair clarification. More an issue with the stuff on top of the internet. As per your point, the base infrastructure is working perfectly for better or worse!
- soneil 2y ago
  I'm not really sure cloud has much blame here either. Imagine it's 1998 and Norton push a new definition file that makes NAV think kernel32 is a virus. The only real difference today is that always-on means we all get the update together, instead of waiting for mum to get off the phone this evening. We got an email this morning telling us none of our usual airlines could take bookings right now. That wouldn't have been much different in 1998, airline bookings have been centralised for my entire lifetime.
Shaney02005 2y ago
This not Internet failure but software functuality failure from a cyber security update , thios is why i never use real cloud security but rather use home cloud security on my Serverpc/NAS/SAN , when it crashes okay so be it i dont get acces to my cloud , but i allways use a online backupcloud that does not need instalation for most important stuff , u should never rely on 1 softweare to do all allways have backups

hnthrowaway0328 2y ago

Did you mean the Azure thing or CS thing? Just happened that the Azure thing did not impact me as I was already off...

ricopags 2y ago
It isn't clear at this point that the Azure thing and the CS thing are unrelated
- tgshaik 2y ago
  Azure issue and CS issues are separate incidents. They are not related.
  - Shaney02005 2y ago
    Indeed this is different , This is world wide and it does not even only affect Windows pcs but with some friends of mine Linux and Macs are in trouble 2 , this is not ur Windows Vista BS problem etc

aaron695 2y ago

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