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If I want a camera running a smartphone OS, I use a phone. A camera should be by definition running on dedicated camera firmware, and nothing else.

by hef19898 2y ago

roblabla 2y ago
> A camera should be by definition running on dedicated camera firmware, and nothing else. Says who? There's no intrinsic reason a camera couldn't run with an Android OS. In fact, there's a lot of good reasons why you would want that - simpler development platform, reusing existing drivers, etc...
- cmrdporcupine 2y ago
  Take a look at the Alice camera: https://www.alice.camera/ https://www.alice.camera/ Basically an add-on for your phone that adds a serious interchangeable lens sensor.
- account42 2y ago
  > There's no intrinsic reason a camera couldn't run with an Android OS. There is: battery life and startup time. DLSRs have no problem being being on standby for weeks if not months with minimal battery drain and then springing to life within a second at the press of a button. Android phones do no even come remotely close to that level of efficiency.
  - tracker1 2y ago
    A lot of that comes down to the always-on radio on the phone... When I've done road trips, I've used my phone mostly as an mp3/podcast player and had it in airplane mode, and it lasted much longer than when it was just in normal operation. Standby for several days. My M1 air is in standby for weeks at a time on a single charge. There's no reason you can't do similar with a phone. Maybe not months, but definitely for extended periods of time.
    - estebank 2y ago
      A DSLR has the added benefit of not needing a screen to be on for it to work (this is why they still have better battery life than mirror less as well). Then again, SLRs have even better battery life (it's only used for the light meter and on newer models autofocus motor and film advance).
    - spondylosaurus 2y ago
      E-readers running Android can last forever on a single charge, too. The biggest drain on most phones' battery are the wireless radio (like you described) and those big, beautiful screens :) But certainly not the OS itself!
- hef19898 2y ago
  Sure, a camera is a specialized tool doing a limited set of functions. It does not need the vast majority of functions Android offers: phone, 5g, internet, app stores... No nerd for that on a camera. What camera needs: fast "boot", stability, reliability, ability to run offline for decades. And no, I don't want all software being developed the way a social.media app for a phone is.
  - batch12 2y ago
    But how else will you get ads on your viewfinder?

If I want a camera running a smartphone OS, I use a phone. A camera should be by definition running on dedicated camera firmware, and nothing else.

roblabla 2y ago

> A camera should be by definition running on dedicated camera firmware, and nothing else. Says who? There's no intrinsic reason a camera couldn't run with an Android OS. In fact, there's a lot of good reasons why you would want that - simpler development platform, reusing existing drivers, etc...

cmrdporcupine 2y ago
Take a look at the Alice camera: https://www.alice.camera/ https://www.alice.camera/ Basically an add-on for your phone that adds a serious interchangeable lens sensor.
account42 2y ago
> There's no intrinsic reason a camera couldn't run with an Android OS. There is: battery life and startup time. DLSRs have no problem being being on standby for weeks if not months with minimal battery drain and then springing to life within a second at the press of a button. Android phones do no even come remotely close to that level of efficiency.
- tracker1 2y ago
  A lot of that comes down to the always-on radio on the phone... When I've done road trips, I've used my phone mostly as an mp3/podcast player and had it in airplane mode, and it lasted much longer than when it was just in normal operation. Standby for several days. My M1 air is in standby for weeks at a time on a single charge. There's no reason you can't do similar with a phone. Maybe not months, but definitely for extended periods of time.
  - estebank 2y ago
    A DSLR has the added benefit of not needing a screen to be on for it to work (this is why they still have better battery life than mirror less as well). Then again, SLRs have even better battery life (it's only used for the light meter and on newer models autofocus motor and film advance).
  - spondylosaurus 2y ago
    E-readers running Android can last forever on a single charge, too. The biggest drain on most phones' battery are the wireless radio (like you described) and those big, beautiful screens :) But certainly not the OS itself!
hef19898 2y ago
Sure, a camera is a specialized tool doing a limited set of functions. It does not need the vast majority of functions Android offers: phone, 5g, internet, app stores... No nerd for that on a camera. What camera needs: fast "boot", stability, reliability, ability to run offline for decades. And no, I don't want all software being developed the way a social.media app for a phone is.
- batch12 2y ago
  But how else will you get ads on your viewfinder?