21 ms·

That's been within the last year I think - I too have been using Linux and Firefox for calls in Teams meetings from 2020 to last year when I had to move to the

by berkut 2y ago

That's been within the last year I think - I too have been using Linux and Firefox for calls in Teams meetings from 2020 to last year when I had to move to the Teams Linux client (which they're deprecating, so having to move to Chrome or Edge).

cess11 2y ago
Yes, they broke this somewhat recently. Video &c. doesn't work in Chromium either. So this means that I pull my customers into a competitor product, and they also get to hear me badmouth Teams if I find an opportunity to do so.
- cereal_cable 2y ago
  Everyone I work with is constantly badmouthing Teams. It's buggy and flakey and they killed Linux support which my company actually made use of. Either way, it doesn't matter since it's bundled. Literally killed any chance of competition getting a fair shake at our usage. Teams doesn't have to be better, they're just bundled.
  - cess11 2y ago
    The customers I'm thinking of are in the public sector and quite non-technical, from us they learn that there are better options and realise that the tooling they have are causing them pain. Together with GDPR cases tightening things up on what software you can use I expect this to make a difference.
  - cogman10 2y ago
    Yup. My company was seriously considering slack, but then teams came in the o365 bundle they were already paying for, so we went with teams. It's better than where we were (Cisco jabber) but also worse than what's out there.
    - GFischer 2y ago
      The company I work for used Slack, we were happy, but higher ups were looking to cut costs and they noticed they had Teams for free, so guess what... bye bye Slack. Absolutely a monopoly maneuver.
dathinab 2y ago
> which they're deprecating and didn't really maintain for at least the last 2 years either (it basically ran a often very outdated version of the web app + some AFIK unnecessary and buggy custom audio handling)

by berkut 2y ago

cess11 2y ago

Yes, they broke this somewhat recently. Video &c. doesn't work in Chromium either. So this means that I pull my customers into a competitor product, and they also get to hear me badmouth Teams if I find an opportunity to do so.

cereal_cable 2y ago
Everyone I work with is constantly badmouthing Teams. It's buggy and flakey and they killed Linux support which my company actually made use of. Either way, it doesn't matter since it's bundled. Literally killed any chance of competition getting a fair shake at our usage. Teams doesn't have to be better, they're just bundled.
- cess11 2y ago
  The customers I'm thinking of are in the public sector and quite non-technical, from us they learn that there are better options and realise that the tooling they have are causing them pain. Together with GDPR cases tightening things up on what software you can use I expect this to make a difference.
- cogman10 2y ago
  Yup. My company was seriously considering slack, but then teams came in the o365 bundle they were already paying for, so we went with teams. It's better than where we were (Cisco jabber) but also worse than what's out there.
  - GFischer 2y ago
    The company I work for used Slack, we were happy, but higher ups were looking to cut costs and they noticed they had Teams for free, so guess what... bye bye Slack. Absolutely a monopoly maneuver.

dathinab 2y ago

> which they're deprecating and didn't really maintain for at least the last 2 years either (it basically ran a often very outdated version of the web app + some AFIK unnecessary and buggy custom audio handling)