> I think people who criticize Django have yet to make up their minds about what a framework is all about, and what, if anything, it's for. They just hold on to

> I think people who criticize Django have yet to make up their minds about what a framework is all about, and what, if anything, it's for. They just hold on to their utopian idea of what their framework should be. No, they have a different idea of what a framework should do or not do. Doesn't mean they have some utopian idea just because it's not Django.