> e-bike -- reliable, fast and fun, but zero exercise I disagree on the last point, I can turn the motor up or down, or all the way off, based on how much of a

> e-bike -- reliable, fast and fun, but zero exercise I disagree on the last point, I can turn the motor up or down, or all the way off, based on how much of a workout I want to get. Also the only reason I'm willing to bike around my hilly city (Seattle) is because I have an ebike. To put it another way, across 3 or 4 blocks I have around a 100 meter incline on the way to a park. Can experienced bicyclists who are in good shape pull that off? With a kid on the back of their bike? Sure. But an ebike lets me turn turn the motor on for that part, and turn it off when I'm not doing something as difficult.