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Care to elaborate? I can't think of any argument for this position.

by jpambrun 2y ago

charlesabarnes 2y ago
Organizing a union once in your employment history would bar you from employment at a ton of companies otherwise
- jpambrun 2y ago
  What is this about then. Obviously you can omit stuff on your resume. I take offense at adding fake experiences.
  - vintermann 2y ago
    It can maybe be tough to explain what you were doing in those years you were actually working at a well-known heavily unionized business. It sucks if you have to be allowed to just make up work experience, but the root of the problem is the power imbalance between employers and employees, and well, that's what's unions are trying to address.
  - stavros 2y ago
    This isn't about adding fake experiences, though, no? It's about omitting experience you've had.
    - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
      Depends on what you consider a "fake experience". The guy in this case legitimately had 4 years of HVAC experience, but he falsely claimed it was at one particular (non-unionized) company when it was actually at two different (unionized) companies.
      - stavros 2y ago
        Ah, I see. In my opinion, this is OK, as otherwise a 4-year gap in a resume might telegraph a union affiliation and make people unhirable. The spirit of the law is that you're allowed to lie to hide union affiliation, so that's fine. I would be against people making up experience, but replacing one company's name for another might be OK, if the companies are of roughly similar caliber (no saying you worked at Google when you were an IT for a shop).
- ungreased0675 2y ago
  Are there any other employers it’s legal to lie about? I don’t like the idea, even though I understand the goal.
kingkawn 2y ago
Unions should be an inherent presence at every job. Any laws that help further their establishment so that business people who sell the labor of a single individual are able to organize beneficial business associations amongst themselves is a positive for the American workforce and the country.

Care to elaborate? I can't think of any argument for this position.

charlesabarnes 2y ago

Organizing a union once in your employment history would bar you from employment at a ton of companies otherwise

jpambrun 2y ago
What is this about then. Obviously you can omit stuff on your resume. I take offense at adding fake experiences.
- vintermann 2y ago
  It can maybe be tough to explain what you were doing in those years you were actually working at a well-known heavily unionized business. It sucks if you have to be allowed to just make up work experience, but the root of the problem is the power imbalance between employers and employees, and well, that's what's unions are trying to address.
- stavros 2y ago
  This isn't about adding fake experiences, though, no? It's about omitting experience you've had.
  - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
    Depends on what you consider a "fake experience". The guy in this case legitimately had 4 years of HVAC experience, but he falsely claimed it was at one particular (non-unionized) company when it was actually at two different (unionized) companies.
    - stavros 2y ago
      Ah, I see. In my opinion, this is OK, as otherwise a 4-year gap in a resume might telegraph a union affiliation and make people unhirable. The spirit of the law is that you're allowed to lie to hide union affiliation, so that's fine. I would be against people making up experience, but replacing one company's name for another might be OK, if the companies are of roughly similar caliber (no saying you worked at Google when you were an IT for a shop).
ungreased0675 2y ago
Are there any other employers it’s legal to lie about? I don’t like the idea, even though I understand the goal.

kingkawn 2y ago

Unions should be an inherent presence at every job. Any laws that help further their establishment so that business people who sell the labor of a single individual are able to organize beneficial business associations amongst themselves is a positive for the American workforce and the country.