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I'm not aware of a B-52 being crashed in a barrel roll, but this did make me think of the 1994 Fairchild crash[0] that was caused by a pilot who was known as da

by agurk 2y ago

I'm not aware of a B-52 being crashed in a barrel roll, but this did make me think of the 1994 Fairchild crash[0] that was caused by a pilot who was known as dangerous due to excessive self confidence. In this case he banked too tightly at low level causing a stall into the ground. The whole crash was caught on camera[1], which is indelibly burnt into my memory. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_... [1] - https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-bud-holland-the-rogue-pilot-that-crashed-his-b-52-after-having-maneuvered-it-beyond-its-operational-limits-at-low-altitude/ https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-bud-holland-the...

dylan604 2y ago
Man, that is just one big ass airplane to even consider wanting to do any kind of maneuvering without threat indicators blinking/buzzing/beeping/toning that your death is imminent without doing some of that "pilot shit". The story from your [0] about one of the crew's last flight with his family on the ground waiting for the post-flight rituals where his wife and 2 kids watching is just horrific. What a fucking asshat of a person.
MaxfordAndSons 2y ago
I'm pretty sure that's the crash GP was referring to. It sort of looks like he could have been going into a barrel roll.
neuronic 2y ago
The last 3 seconds of your life as the copilot must have been some revolting emotion knowing that the overconfident asshole in the seat next to you just killed you.
chipdart 2y ago
Dutch roll, Bud Holland... Netherlands trifecta is in play.
umvi 2y ago
Thanks, my mistake, this is what I was referring to. Apparently "Bud" would brag about "rolling" B-52s (https://www.historylink.org/File/8716 https://www.historylink.org/File/8716), but the fatal crash was actually just a low-altitude stall as you pointed out. It's now a textbook case study for systemic leadership failure.

by agurk 2y ago

dylan604 2y ago

Man, that is just one big ass airplane to even consider wanting to do any kind of maneuvering without threat indicators blinking/buzzing/beeping/toning that your death is imminent without doing some of that "pilot shit". The story from your [0] about one of the crew's last flight with his family on the ground waiting for the post-flight rituals where his wife and 2 kids watching is just horrific. What a fucking asshat of a person.

MaxfordAndSons 2y ago

I'm pretty sure that's the crash GP was referring to. It sort of looks like he could have been going into a barrel roll.

neuronic 2y ago

The last 3 seconds of your life as the copilot must have been some revolting emotion knowing that the overconfident asshole in the seat next to you just killed you.

chipdart 2y ago

Dutch roll, Bud Holland... Netherlands trifecta is in play.

umvi 2y ago

Thanks, my mistake, this is what I was referring to. Apparently "Bud" would brag about "rolling" B-52s (https://www.historylink.org/File/8716 https://www.historylink.org/File/8716), but the fatal crash was actually just a low-altitude stall as you pointed out. It's now a textbook case study for systemic leadership failure.