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So why does HN text look so small under default settings on the desktop, and I always need to zoom to 133% to match the font size on other websites (that requir

by rwalle 2y ago

So why does HN text look so small under default settings on the desktop, and I always need to zoom to 133% to match the font size on other websites (that require no special treatment)? Am I using the browser wrong, or something is not quite right with HN? I am inclined to think the latter.

louis-lau 2y ago
The font site is 9pt. It's just small. Not sure where someone got 12px from. The measurement is resolution independent, yes.
- SassyBird 2y ago
  9pt == 12px on the web. You can check that in Web Inspector in computed styles. Alternatively: 1px = (1/96)in 1pt = (1/72)in = (1/72)*(96/72)*(72/96)in = (96/72)*(1/96)in = (4/3)*1px = (4/3)px 9pt = 9*1pt = 9*(4/3)px = 12px https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Values_and_Units https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Values_...
rob 2y ago
2560x1440 and ~12px on HN looks incredibly small. I just switched the resolution to 1024x768, and now the same ~12px is "larger" and easier to read without needing to increase my browser zoom. There's an obvious visual difference between the two.
- account42 2y ago
  Then your setup is not compliant with web standards. Most likely you need to enable DPI scaling somewhere.
- SassyBird 2y ago
  Without HiDPI (sic!) scaling that means that a correctly-sized display for that resolution would have a 30" diagonal on Windows (standard PPI: 96) and 40" on Mac (standard PPI: 72). If you don’t have HiDPI (sic!) scaling enabled in your system and your display is smaller than that, then you’re basically browsing everything zoomed out.
wruza 2y ago
I always need to zoom 125-130% on all sites on top of 125% desktop system zoom and HN needs no special treatment. E.g. wikipedia is basically the same. Anyway, you can set [default] zoom once and enjoy. Unless you’re in a browser in which no one uses that per-site zoom feature cause it’s not implemented cause no one uses it. In this case, you can embrace the simplicity or use StyleBot.

by rwalle 2y ago

louis-lau 2y ago

The font site is 9pt. It's just small. Not sure where someone got 12px from. The measurement is resolution independent, yes.

SassyBird 2y ago
9pt == 12px on the web. You can check that in Web Inspector in computed styles. Alternatively: 1px = (1/96)in 1pt = (1/72)in = (1/72)*(96/72)*(72/96)in = (96/72)*(1/96)in = (4/3)*1px = (4/3)px 9pt = 9*1pt = 9*(4/3)px = 12px https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Values_and_Units https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Values_...

rob 2y ago

2560x1440 and ~12px on HN looks incredibly small. I just switched the resolution to 1024x768, and now the same ~12px is "larger" and easier to read without needing to increase my browser zoom. There's an obvious visual difference between the two.

account42 2y ago
Then your setup is not compliant with web standards. Most likely you need to enable DPI scaling somewhere.
SassyBird 2y ago
Without HiDPI (sic!) scaling that means that a correctly-sized display for that resolution would have a 30" diagonal on Windows (standard PPI: 96) and 40" on Mac (standard PPI: 72). If you don’t have HiDPI (sic!) scaling enabled in your system and your display is smaller than that, then you’re basically browsing everything zoomed out.

wruza 2y ago

I always need to zoom 125-130% on all sites on top of 125% desktop system zoom and HN needs no special treatment. E.g. wikipedia is basically the same. Anyway, you can set [default] zoom once and enjoy. Unless you’re in a browser in which no one uses that per-site zoom feature cause it’s not implemented cause no one uses it. In this case, you can embrace the simplicity or use StyleBot.