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My mom's PC is plenty fast, and works flawlessly. She has an i7 4790k. She probably wouldn't mind upgrading to windows 11, but she can't because MS decided tha

My mom's PC is plenty fast, and works flawlessly. She has an i7 4790k. She probably wouldn't mind upgrading to windows 11, but she can't because MS decided that you must have TPM. Windows 10 will be EOL in a year. These companies will bs you about how eco friendly they are, but they expect you to throw a perfectly fine computer into the trash.

drpossum 2y ago
The sheer amount of trash this will generate over a small thing like a TPM is something where a competent government would intervene.
r2_pilot 2y ago
Not me. When Win 10 goes out of support, I'll have a nice, pretty darn modern (all things considered) (yet another) Linux box. And I'll happily pick up any other computer artificially deprecated by Microsoft too.
amatecha 2y ago
Oh neat, yeah my most modern desktop PC is i5-4590k, so that's cool. Forced obsolescence is one of my biggest complaints towards modern tech vendors. Ah well, needless to say that 4590 is my last Windows machine. I have one Mac, and the rest of my machines are Linux and OpenBSD. I'm done with proprietary OSes all around.
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  The weirdest thing is that Windows 11 iot ltsc (that just released) has no tpm or modern cpu requirements. Only sse 4.2 so basically any intel cpu named core ix-.
wpm 2y ago
I'll just keep running Windows 10 until I literally can't. Which is enough time to find a Linux distro + DE/WM/theme I can live with and get Proton/WINE setup.
- PenguinCoder 2y ago
  > I'll just keep running Windows 10 until I literally can't. That's what people and companies said about Win NT. And Win 98. And Win XP. And Win 7. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. The results this time will be same as it was for users last time. Or you finally give up on the abusive practices of this vendor, and use something that respects your efforts and choices. But, there are still a TON of older hardware running those older OSes. Security and software updates be dammed.
layer8 2y ago
Same here with a i5-4570. Despite being ten years old (except for an SSD upgrade six years ago), in comparison a current mid-range PC is only 2-2.5 times as fast in single-core performance, and you don’t really feel that for office-style work and web browsing.
Timshel 2y ago
Look at windows 10 Ltsc support should be until 2027.
wmf 2y ago
The minimum CPU for Windows 11 is 8th gen so 4th gen (10 years old) is definitely not supported. I owned a 4790K myself and it served me well but it's time to move on. The cheapest 14100 is faster and uses less power.
paulryanrogers 2y ago
> These companies will bs you about how eco friendly they are, but they expect you to throw a perfectly fine computer into the trash. Windows 10 actually breathed new life into some older PCs. Sad to see them cut compatibility so suddenly and without significant advantages.
HumblyTossed 2y ago
HAHA, no shit, and then, on top of this, they pull the Windows Recall fiasco. I mean, it just makes no sense!
pepa65 2y ago
I suspect this will result in lots of capable and cheap refurbished PC deals..!

drpossum 2y ago

The sheer amount of trash this will generate over a small thing like a TPM is something where a competent government would intervene.

r2_pilot 2y ago

Not me. When Win 10 goes out of support, I'll have a nice, pretty darn modern (all things considered) (yet another) Linux box. And I'll happily pick up any other computer artificially deprecated by Microsoft too.

amatecha 2y ago

Oh neat, yeah my most modern desktop PC is i5-4590k, so that's cool. Forced obsolescence is one of my biggest complaints towards modern tech vendors. Ah well, needless to say that 4590 is my last Windows machine. I have one Mac, and the rest of my machines are Linux and OpenBSD. I'm done with proprietary OSes all around.

TiredOfLife 2y ago
The weirdest thing is that Windows 11 iot ltsc (that just released) has no tpm or modern cpu requirements. Only sse 4.2 so basically any intel cpu named core ix-.

wpm 2y ago

I'll just keep running Windows 10 until I literally can't. Which is enough time to find a Linux distro + DE/WM/theme I can live with and get Proton/WINE setup.

PenguinCoder 2y ago
> I'll just keep running Windows 10 until I literally can't. That's what people and companies said about Win NT. And Win 98. And Win XP. And Win 7. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. The results this time will be same as it was for users last time. Or you finally give up on the abusive practices of this vendor, and use something that respects your efforts and choices. But, there are still a TON of older hardware running those older OSes. Security and software updates be dammed.

layer8 2y ago

Same here with a i5-4570. Despite being ten years old (except for an SSD upgrade six years ago), in comparison a current mid-range PC is only 2-2.5 times as fast in single-core performance, and you don’t really feel that for office-style work and web browsing.

Timshel 2y ago

Look at windows 10 Ltsc support should be until 2027.

wmf 2y ago

The minimum CPU for Windows 11 is 8th gen so 4th gen (10 years old) is definitely not supported. I owned a 4790K myself and it served me well but it's time to move on. The cheapest 14100 is faster and uses less power.

paulryanrogers 2y ago

> These companies will bs you about how eco friendly they are, but they expect you to throw a perfectly fine computer into the trash. Windows 10 actually breathed new life into some older PCs. Sad to see them cut compatibility so suddenly and without significant advantages.

HumblyTossed 2y ago

HAHA, no shit, and then, on top of this, they pull the Windows Recall fiasco. I mean, it just makes no sense!

pepa65 2y ago

I suspect this will result in lots of capable and cheap refurbished PC deals..!