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Author here. Seeing how difficult it was to get a reliable OCR transcription with commercial software from a pristine, computer-generated representation of the

Author here. Seeing how difficult it was to get a reliable OCR transcription with commercial software from a pristine, computer-generated representation of the text, I suspect trying to OCR photos would be even less reliable :) I simplified some things for brevity in the write-up. I did indeed try a bunch of fonts/font sizes (trying a single page at a time and manually inspecting the results) without much improvement.

Symbiote 2y ago
Did you try a search-and-replace in Word, changing the problem characters to something else? e.g. 0123456789ABCDEF 012345M7XPAVKHEF
- tfvlrue 2y ago
  Nope! That's a good idea though. The transcription errors I was getting were not consistent. Like, D would be O or 0 or D, with no apparent rhyme or reason to it. And the turnaround time on each fax attempt was long enough that I focused on doing the image recognition myself instead.
  - 1-more 2y ago
    This was a phenomenal effort and such a joy to read. Based on how much work this was, these were probably some very important sound files that mean a lot to someone in your family, so thanks for your hard work getting them off the laptop. My goofy idea was using the font OCR-A but you'd be very lucky if that Mac came with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-A
- remram 2y ago
  That's brilliant! You could even expand each input character to multiple characters to build an error correcting code.
adastra22 2y ago
Why not display the info as a series of QR images? There probably wasn’t a dev environment on the laptop though. For the record, you’d have had no problem mounting an image of the HFS disk on any modern Linux or macOS system.
- kelnos 2y ago
  Well, mounting the disk itself. If it was simple to get an image of the disk, the author could have used the same method to just get the files they wanted.
  - adastra22 2y ago
    There are many different SCSI to USB cables out there, for exactly this purpose. Even the weird mini-SCSI interface used by Apple in the 90’s.
jandrese 2y ago
There is nothing pristine about images transmitted over Fax. It's such a grotty old technology with loads of aliasing issues. A modern cell phone picture of a word screen full of hex would almost certainly be easier to OCR.
Maxion 2y ago
Did you try seeing how well ChatGPT was at OCRing the images? Though since it is HEX characters it might not do so good. I've found it to be very reliable at OCRin e.g. photos of receipts.
ComplexSystems 2y ago
Couldn't you just do a bunch of different faxes, perhaps in different fonts or different font sizes, which would lead to different randomly distributed errors? Then you can do OCR for all of them, and just take the median of the result, and get exponentially less error.

Symbiote 2y ago

Did you try a search-and-replace in Word, changing the problem characters to something else? e.g. 0123456789ABCDEF 012345M7XPAVKHEF

tfvlrue 2y ago
Nope! That's a good idea though. The transcription errors I was getting were not consistent. Like, D would be O or 0 or D, with no apparent rhyme or reason to it. And the turnaround time on each fax attempt was long enough that I focused on doing the image recognition myself instead.
- 1-more 2y ago
  This was a phenomenal effort and such a joy to read. Based on how much work this was, these were probably some very important sound files that mean a lot to someone in your family, so thanks for your hard work getting them off the laptop. My goofy idea was using the font OCR-A but you'd be very lucky if that Mac came with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-A
remram 2y ago
That's brilliant! You could even expand each input character to multiple characters to build an error correcting code.

adastra22 2y ago

Why not display the info as a series of QR images? There probably wasn’t a dev environment on the laptop though. For the record, you’d have had no problem mounting an image of the HFS disk on any modern Linux or macOS system.

kelnos 2y ago
Well, mounting the disk itself. If it was simple to get an image of the disk, the author could have used the same method to just get the files they wanted.
- adastra22 2y ago
  There are many different SCSI to USB cables out there, for exactly this purpose. Even the weird mini-SCSI interface used by Apple in the 90’s.

jandrese 2y ago

There is nothing pristine about images transmitted over Fax. It's such a grotty old technology with loads of aliasing issues. A modern cell phone picture of a word screen full of hex would almost certainly be easier to OCR.

Maxion 2y ago

Did you try seeing how well ChatGPT was at OCRing the images? Though since it is HEX characters it might not do so good. I've found it to be very reliable at OCRin e.g. photos of receipts.

ComplexSystems 2y ago

Couldn't you just do a bunch of different faxes, perhaps in different fonts or different font sizes, which would lead to different randomly distributed errors? Then you can do OCR for all of them, and just take the median of the result, and get exponentially less error.