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You can literally just self host and run open source software and it will be the same experience or even better since you won't have your meta data spied on at

You can literally just self host and run open source software and it will be the same experience or even better since you won't have your meta data spied on at the same time.

gizajob 2y ago
You can, but the girls you want to send nudes to you aren’t going to get round to installing your open source software on their iPhones. Or even manage to if they were inclined.
- rdm_blackhole 2y ago
  That is the problem. You can opt out, roll out your own thing, but try and ask your friends and family to switch.
- rexpop 2y ago
  > send nudes Unless this is a synecdoche for something else, I'm not worried about it. Computers can sneeze out superficial 2D digital reproductions of women for less than a dime a dozen. Real, live people are so much more interesting to interact with on that level. For that, we meet through public institutions (aka "pubs", eg bars/clubs/churches/schools) as members of a society. I'm just saying that if you're some kind of renegade evading authoritarian surveillance, you probably recognize that life is too short to spend engaging oxytocin production over some pixels.
  - gizajob 2y ago
    This reads like a combo of Mr Logic and Major Misunderstanding, from the Viz comic. When was the last time you met someone in the pub?
    - rexpop 2y ago
      ie churches/schools? Constantly. Frequently. Several times a week.
  - luzojeda 2y ago
    This felt like what an LLM, trained on hackernews data, would output if someone used as prompt "Give me the most stereotypical comment about sending nudes to woman that a hackernews user would write"
    - rexpop 2y ago
      You should recalibrate your LLM detector, then.
- talldayo 2y ago
  The worst part? These are the same people getting their nudes datamined by the trusted and secure hand of their benefactors: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-settled-lawsuit-womans-nudes-leaked-iphone-repair-workers-2021-6?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-settled-lawsuit-womans... Frankly I feel like we all deserve it, at this point. This shit is just what happens when nobody cares anymore.
  - rightbyte 2y ago
    > Frankly I feel like we all deserve it, at this point. This shit is just what happens when nobody cares anymore. Come on. I as a programmer didn't realize Google spyed on me on non-Google websites until maybe 2015 some time when it struck me that the ads matched my Google searches. I thought the idea of someone spying in poor little me being silly, until embarrassingly late. With LLMs the spying can take enormous scale. It will most likely get way worse before there is any chance of a recourse ...
    - talldayo 2y ago
      Oh yeah, it's headed down the shitter alright. But look on the bright side; Windows Recall! So many cool features getting made, and with enough AI greasing the wheel you'll have willing customers of brand new spyware. The way things are headed, I don't think we're going to be able to expect the average user to meaningfully resist.
thefz 2y ago
Such as?

You can literally just self host and run open source software and it will be the same experience or even better since you won't have your meta data spied on at the same time.

gizajob 2y ago

You can, but the girls you want to send nudes to you aren’t going to get round to installing your open source software on their iPhones. Or even manage to if they were inclined.

rdm_blackhole 2y ago
That is the problem. You can opt out, roll out your own thing, but try and ask your friends and family to switch.
rexpop 2y ago
> send nudes Unless this is a synecdoche for something else, I'm not worried about it. Computers can sneeze out superficial 2D digital reproductions of women for less than a dime a dozen. Real, live people are so much more interesting to interact with on that level. For that, we meet through public institutions (aka "pubs", eg bars/clubs/churches/schools) as members of a society. I'm just saying that if you're some kind of renegade evading authoritarian surveillance, you probably recognize that life is too short to spend engaging oxytocin production over some pixels.
- gizajob 2y ago
  This reads like a combo of Mr Logic and Major Misunderstanding, from the Viz comic. When was the last time you met someone in the pub?
  - rexpop 2y ago
    ie churches/schools? Constantly. Frequently. Several times a week.
- luzojeda 2y ago
  This felt like what an LLM, trained on hackernews data, would output if someone used as prompt "Give me the most stereotypical comment about sending nudes to woman that a hackernews user would write"
  - rexpop 2y ago
    You should recalibrate your LLM detector, then.
talldayo 2y ago
The worst part? These are the same people getting their nudes datamined by the trusted and secure hand of their benefactors: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-settled-lawsuit-womans-nudes-leaked-iphone-repair-workers-2021-6?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-settled-lawsuit-womans... Frankly I feel like we all deserve it, at this point. This shit is just what happens when nobody cares anymore.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  > Frankly I feel like we all deserve it, at this point. This shit is just what happens when nobody cares anymore. Come on. I as a programmer didn't realize Google spyed on me on non-Google websites until maybe 2015 some time when it struck me that the ads matched my Google searches. I thought the idea of someone spying in poor little me being silly, until embarrassingly late. With LLMs the spying can take enormous scale. It will most likely get way worse before there is any chance of a recourse ...
  - talldayo 2y ago
    Oh yeah, it's headed down the shitter alright. But look on the bright side; Windows Recall! So many cool features getting made, and with enough AI greasing the wheel you'll have willing customers of brand new spyware. The way things are headed, I don't think we're going to be able to expect the average user to meaningfully resist.

thefz 2y ago

Such as?