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I did and I comprehended that you want left and right modifiers to be different. The rest of the world disagrees with you. That does not give you the license to

I did and I comprehended that you want left and right modifiers to be different. The rest of the world disagrees with you. That does not give you the license to go around maligning other people's work.

eviks 2y ago
You're too limited in your perspective to speak for the rest of the world, for example, you had no clue that the bigger part of the OS world - Windows - doesn't disagree (though that failed to become a learning opportunity). So there is enough better design in the world to call out lack of comprehension in both other people's work and other people
- aumerle 2y ago
  Name one windows application used by more than 10 people that supports independent left and right modifier keys used as modifiers. One application. Just because the windows API for some inexplicable reason exposes those states. Meanwhile let me name some of the most popular applications in the world on Windows that explicitly dont support this. 1) Chrome 2) Edge 3) Microsoft Word 4) Windows Explorer 5) Windows command prompt and windows terminal 6) VLC 7) LibreOffice 8) Every terminal emulator under the sun 9) Firefox 10) Pick any windows application at random Just because you WANT left and right modifiers to be different doesnt make it a good idea. Learn that.
  - eviks 2y ago
    > Name one windows application used by more than 10 people Even though you've tried to limit yourself to basically 3 apps by different vendors (what a shallow view of the app world), and even though you've included some awful browsers that don't even allow users to rebind default(!) keybinds (are you going to argue now that this is also good and just because I WANT to change keybindings, it's not a good idea and your imaginary world disagrees?), and the platform so bad at keybinding support that it requires a whole new pseudo-comprehensive keyboard handling protocol, you've still managed to step on a huge ignorance landmine - Chrome, on Windows, supports differentiating left vs right modifiers via a browser extension!!! There are others, but let that sink in - your #1 example fails you... > Just because you WANT left and right modifiers to be different doesnt make it a good idea. Learn that. It's an excellent idea for other reasons, but you're not capable of engaging in a substantive discussion, so you instead make up arguments and insults
    - aumerle 2y ago
      Sure I can patch any software to do anything I want. Which is what an extension is doing. I can patch any software I want to treat the A key as a modifier too. Still doesnt make it a good idea. And my point remains, Chrome, unpatched, does not support left and right modifier keys as modifiers. Not to mention I dont actually believe you. Post a link to this supposed extension of yours. I am guessing you wrote it and only you use it. And if you want to call the browsers used by 99.9999% of the population terrible in favor of some shit you cooked up yourself just to try to rescue your ridiculous point, good luck to you. I'll just leave you with this promise, anytime you try to denigrate the kitty keyboard protocol I will be right there calling you out.
      - eviks 2y ago
        You're of course wrong again about everything :) Extension isn't a patch, and it wasn't your point, you're just making you new conditions up because your previous attempts to build a safe condition box failed to save you But if you want to find out the extension you'd have to search in that other thing available in a browser 99.9999% are using, it sometimes helps even the most ignorant of those! So I'll leave you with that and ignore your future trollish defenses of a "cross-platform" terminal not working on the biggest platform and "comprehensive" protocols excluding Japanese modifiers and sides

eviks 2y ago

You're too limited in your perspective to speak for the rest of the world, for example, you had no clue that the bigger part of the OS world - Windows - doesn't disagree (though that failed to become a learning opportunity). So there is enough better design in the world to call out lack of comprehension in both other people's work and other people

aumerle 2y ago
Name one windows application used by more than 10 people that supports independent left and right modifier keys used as modifiers. One application. Just because the windows API for some inexplicable reason exposes those states. Meanwhile let me name some of the most popular applications in the world on Windows that explicitly dont support this. 1) Chrome 2) Edge 3) Microsoft Word 4) Windows Explorer 5) Windows command prompt and windows terminal 6) VLC 7) LibreOffice 8) Every terminal emulator under the sun 9) Firefox 10) Pick any windows application at random Just because you WANT left and right modifiers to be different doesnt make it a good idea. Learn that.
- eviks 2y ago
  > Name one windows application used by more than 10 people Even though you've tried to limit yourself to basically 3 apps by different vendors (what a shallow view of the app world), and even though you've included some awful browsers that don't even allow users to rebind default(!) keybinds (are you going to argue now that this is also good and just because I WANT to change keybindings, it's not a good idea and your imaginary world disagrees?), and the platform so bad at keybinding support that it requires a whole new pseudo-comprehensive keyboard handling protocol, you've still managed to step on a huge ignorance landmine - Chrome, on Windows, supports differentiating left vs right modifiers via a browser extension!!! There are others, but let that sink in - your #1 example fails you... > Just because you WANT left and right modifiers to be different doesnt make it a good idea. Learn that. It's an excellent idea for other reasons, but you're not capable of engaging in a substantive discussion, so you instead make up arguments and insults
  - aumerle 2y ago
    Sure I can patch any software to do anything I want. Which is what an extension is doing. I can patch any software I want to treat the A key as a modifier too. Still doesnt make it a good idea. And my point remains, Chrome, unpatched, does not support left and right modifier keys as modifiers. Not to mention I dont actually believe you. Post a link to this supposed extension of yours. I am guessing you wrote it and only you use it. And if you want to call the browsers used by 99.9999% of the population terrible in favor of some shit you cooked up yourself just to try to rescue your ridiculous point, good luck to you. I'll just leave you with this promise, anytime you try to denigrate the kitty keyboard protocol I will be right there calling you out.
    - eviks 2y ago
      You're of course wrong again about everything :) Extension isn't a patch, and it wasn't your point, you're just making you new conditions up because your previous attempts to build a safe condition box failed to save you But if you want to find out the extension you'd have to search in that other thing available in a browser 99.9999% are using, it sometimes helps even the most ignorant of those! So I'll leave you with that and ignore your future trollish defenses of a "cross-platform" terminal not working on the biggest platform and "comprehensive" protocols excluding Japanese modifiers and sides