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You haven't looked very hard then
by cd4plus 2y ago
You haven't looked very hard then
- TeMPOraL 2y agoOkay, name three examples then. Bonus points if they happen to be pure philosophers, not philosopher-practitioners.
- cd4plus 2y agoAre you not a practitioner if you contribute to the field...? Seems impossible to meet your criteria. What's a pure philosopher? Are Frege and Decartes not philosophers because they also did math? Does Alan Turing count? What about Popper and Kuhn? Are they philosophy enough for the philosopher club? Where, when, how and by whom do you think the concept of 'empirical science' was derived? To be clear, everyone, including scientists, do philosophy every single day. You don't think Darwin did some philosophy in on the origin of species?
- alan-hn 2y agoSure you can argue about the specificity of the question but do you have any examples of pure philosophers?
- cd4plus 2y agoJerry Fodor? Noam Chomsky? Hilary Putnam? Patricia Churchland What is a pure philosopher??!? I'm not arguing the specificity of the question, I'm saying that question is nonsensical.
- alan-hn 2y agoSomeone who does not test hypotheses
- zaat 2y agoThe characterization of the scientific method as proposing hypotheses and then putting them to test was given by a philosopher in the previous century. While the hypotheses that this is the character of the scientific method is still very common, it was refuted long ago, both by observations and by logic reasoning.
- alan-hn 2y agoI didn't say anything about the scientific method though, I'm simply making a distinction about two groups of people who both seem to claim to generate understanding of our reality. One group can and does test hypotheses, the other does not
- AndrewKemendo 2y ago-Feynmann -Von Neumann -Say -Frege -Pasteur -Darwin Like I could literally go forever because most breakthrough practitioners started as philosophers- note the PhDs “Doctor of Philosophy” I mean JFC people this is basic science history But you know I’m sure that won’t satisfy somebody who doesn’t even understand the epistemological distinction between what a philosopher is or does and what somebody who’s actually doing experimental testing that turns into something great is because the distinction is basically zero
- alan-hn 2y agoThe distinction is that one of them actually tests hypotheses